Believe it or not, TCU's move is good for SMU

[NickSMU17]

I would like TCU to play Wisco in rose bowl and get pounded just like Northwestern did this weekend...

I think that Northwestern and TCU are not that different and would fare very close in big 10 play...I have seen both teams in person unlike most on this board...

[SMU 86]

2. Out of TCU's shadow, SMU will get more media exposure.

SMU will be in TCU's shadow more than ever. It is ridiculous to believe that TCU will receive less coverage due to its advancement, or that SMU will magically become more appreciated due to the success of another school.

I am sure SMU will get much more exposure while TCU is playing West Virginia, Pitt, South Florida, etc in Fort Worth while we are playing whoever. That statement by Undercover Frog is almost insulting.

[SMU1523]

Gary Patterson said that the travel is about the same. And to the Frog, I could care less if we played you guys or not so I am not worried about that at all.

Your ok with throwing away the oldest and greatest rivalry we have... TCU is the only game we have truly (2009 SFA Sellout was a marketing tool that turned into a complete joke) sold out in a very, very long time... And it was not a reverse TCU sellout like are so called friends from espnDallas insisted... It will be extremely necessary to receive an invitation to an AQ conference in the next decade to stay relevant for decades to come!!!

[SMU2007]

the big east is a terrible football conference as of recently but at least it is an AQ. they are just playing the game.

with the addition of boise and hawaii, i think the mwc would have been a better conference than the big (L)east if tcu had stayed but i obviously don't blame them for working the system.

i agree that it hopefully paves the way for us to join a bigger conference soon.

PS. Did anyone notice that UConn is going to win that conference? good lord...

[SMU 86]

Gary Patterson said that the travel is about the same. And to the Frog, I could care less if we played you guys or not so I am not worried about that at all.

Your ok with throwing away the oldest and greatest rivalry we have... TCU is the only game we have truly (2009 SFA Sellout was a marketing tool that turned into a complete joke) sold out in a very, very long time... And it was not a reverse TCU sellout like are so called friends from espnDallas insisted... It will be extremely necessary to receive an invitation to an AQ conference in the next decade to stay relevant for decades to come!!!

I am not going to beg TCU to play us. We will be fine either way. We just have to win that's what's important to stay relevant. To heck with TCU.

[ParkyPony]

3. It weakens the MWC and strengthens C-USA. The MWC is still the better conference, but now the two closer to the same level. I'm not sure whether an undefeated C-USA champion could have made it to the BCS. Not sure if this helps things either, but it can't hurt.

The Mountain West conference losing Utah, BYU, TCU, and gaining Boise St, Nevada, Fresno St, and Hawaii isn't really any better than the current CUSA. But that's a matter we could pointlessly debate and never make any headway.

Good luck to you guys in the Big East. Honestly, I think it's a great move for TCU. It will be interesting to see what happens with conference realignments in the next 2-3 years. The Big East likely implodes, but if TCU continues its success as part of it, they can position themselves to be one of the 16 team Super-conferences.

Big Hoss hits the nail on the head!! The implosion of the BCS as we know today will change landscape all over the country in the next 3-4 years. If their program suffers any downturn especially after this year and they just turn out to be an average program, I don't know that I would want to be that far East to not have a chair when the music stops playing.

[ya]

[quote="HB Pony Dad"]
They are going to need those extra AQ Conference $$$ to pay the additional travel expenses they are going to incur as their average Travel Mileage is now a whopping 1140 miles! quote]
Not true!!

The cumulative average distance total for all schools between the MWC and the Big East is 130 miles more to the Big East.

That is nothing in a jet as it is maybe 20 additional minutes. Plus, the travel going east is always easier than going west as there are more flights and airports for options--which, if you ask any travel professional, means it is cheaper to fly east than west.

[ReedFrawg]

Gary Patterson said that the travel is about the same.

Probably a loose interpretation of the word "about".

2:45 minute flights instead of 2:25 flights...negligible difference in travel.

[SMU2007]

In case anyone is interested...

TCU to:
Cincy- 970 miles
UConn- 1722 miles
Louisville- 870 miles
Pitt - 1255 miles
Rutgers - 1560
USF - 1135 miles
Syracuse - 1550 miles
West Virginia - 1240 miles
avg: 1288 miles

MWC:
Air Force- 705 miles
BYU- 1180 miles
New Mexico - 626 miles
San Diego - 1330 miles
UNLV - 1200 miles
Utah - 1220 miles
Wyoming - 920 miles
avg: 1025 miles

About a 500 mile roundtrip difference. (Granted it's somewhat inaccurate since these are by car and not by plane - which makes at least USF closer - but I think it's still interesting to look at).

[Charleston Pony]

In case anyone is interested...

TCU to:
Cincy- 970 miles
UConn- 1722 miles
Louisville- 870 miles
Pitt - 1255 miles
Rutgers - 1560
USF - 1135 miles
Syracuse - 1550 miles
West Virginia - 1240 miles
avg: 1288 miles

MWC:
Air Force- 705 miles
BYU- 1180 miles
New Mexico - 626 miles
San Diego - 1330 miles
UNLV - 1200 miles
Utah - 1220 miles
Wyoming - 920 miles
avg: 1025 miles

About a 500 mile roundtrip difference. (Granted it's somewhat inaccurate since these are by car and not by plane - which makes at least USF closer)

probably cheaper air fare to those more populated cities

[ozfan]

In case anyone is interested...

TCU to:
Cincy- 970 miles
UConn- 1722 miles
Louisville- 870 miles
Pitt - 1255 miles
Rutgers - 1560
USF - 1135 miles
Syracuse - 1550 miles
West Virginia - 1240 miles
avg: 1288 miles

MWC:
Air Force- 705 miles
BYU- 1180 miles
New Mexico - 626 miles
San Diego - 1330 miles
UNLV - 1200 miles
Utah - 1220 miles
Wyoming - 920 miles
avg: 1025 miles

About a 500 mile roundtrip difference. (Granted it's somewhat inaccurate since these are by car and not by plane - which makes at least USF closer)

probably cheaper air fare to those more populated cities

TCu OC schedule will now be changed to SMU, NTSU, and Austin college to cut travel cost.

[PonyPlayer4]

Gary Patterson said that the travel is about the same. And to the Frog, I could care less if we played you guys or not so I am not worried about that at all.

Your ok with throwing away the oldest and greatest rivalry we have... TCU is the only game we have truly (2009 SFA Sellout was a marketing tool that turned into a complete joke) sold out in a very, very long time... And it was not a reverse TCU sellout like are so called friends from espnDallas insisted... It will be extremely necessary to receive an invitation to an AQ conference in the next decade to stay relevant for decades to come!!!

I am not going to beg TCU to play us. We will be fine either way. We just have to win that's what's important to stay relevant. To heck with TCU.

Without TCU on our schedule we have no real rivalry game. Yeah I guess we have been building rivalries with Tulsa and Houston, but the fans want TCU to be on our schedule. The excitement on the boulevard and in the stadium for the TCU game was on a completely different level that I think is necessary.

[SMU2007]

it didn't hurt there was a #4 team coming into the stadium.

[ponyscott]

In case anyone is interested...

TCU to:
Cincy- 970 miles
UConn- 1722 miles
Louisville- 870 miles
Pitt - 1255 miles
Rutgers - 1560
USF - 1135 miles
Syracuse - 1550 miles
West Virginia - 1240 miles
avg: 1288 miles

MWC:
Air Force- 705 miles
BYU- 1180 miles
New Mexico - 626 miles
San Diego - 1330 miles
UNLV - 1200 miles
Utah - 1220 miles
Wyoming - 920 miles
avg: 1025 miles

About a 500 mile roundtrip difference. (Granted it's somewhat inaccurate since these are by car and not by plane - which makes at least USF closer - but I think it's still interesting to look at).

Thanks so much for doing this...so really UConn is the biggest difference maker by mileage?.....good info and going to more populated cities has more flights and is more competition, so better pricing. Not as big a deal as once thought.

NickSMU17 I know you may have seen both TCU and Northwestern play in person, but in all due respect TCU has a much better defense and would those two schools playing each other would be a mismatch with TCU killing them with their 4-2-5 scheme, which most don't even schedule or coach for and you don't have to go in person to see the difference between these two teams. TCU is a legit defensive powerhouse and the QB has matured into a tough one to beat. I don't like TCU just as most on here, but give credit where credit is due.

[RednBlue11]

I don't understand the sucking for us today. I am happy for you and all, but we are just fine.

A lot of people on this board were saying it sucked for SMU. Was mostly paying lip service to them.

Also, the MWC will be just fine. The MWC AD, "Hair," will take care of them.

Y'all better hope to GOD the Big East doesn't crumble, cuz guess what?...there wont be enough AQ conf. slots to pick up all the pieces.