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by sbsmith » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:29 pm
mrydel wrote:I have always been a Petrino fan but we are too late. He does not need us as a stepping stone anymore. So I would be happy with the coach that recruited the players that Petrino used to do what he did.
You're right about us being too late for Petrino since he'll be in the running for P5 jobs in December. As for Nutt why bother hiring him when at the very most his successor is going to win more with his recruits than he will?
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:31 pm
SMU 86 wrote:I thought it was generally noted that when Nutt ran out of Ed Oregon's recruits he had a tough time. Especially when Snead graduated. Could not recruit a QB that fit his system too well. Even though his system was mostly run oriented.
Nutt was the guy who signed 39 recruits in one year and personally caused NCAA/SEC recruiting limitations on scholarships-Most of those kids were ineligible which caused some real problems. It doesn't matter if a guy is a 5 star if he can't qualify-if you took out all the ineligible recruits you'd find his recruiting classes were inflated
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by JasonB » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:40 pm
Have to go for someone who has pro or college HC experience.
A good coordinator will not have the experience to run the politics at SMU.
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:50 pm
that's just not true you mean like Patterson at TCU Briles at UH Sumlin at UH Stoops at OU Gundy at OSU Les Miles at OSU Ron Meyer at SMU Pretty Boy at Tech
these are only the most recent examples of course it also applies to the other great coaches in the history of the Southwest like Royal, Broyles, Switzer, Yeoman, Teaff hopefully the people making these decisions at SMU know a little more about college football than just these tired old erroneous myths
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by SMU 86 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:53 pm
Stallion wrote:that's just not true you mean like Patterson at TCU Briles at UH Sumlin at UH Stoops at OU Gundy at OSU Les Miles at OSU Ron Meyer at SMU Pretty Boy at Tech
these are only the most recent examples of course it also applies to the other great coaches in the history of the Southwest like Royal, Switzer, Yeoman, Teaff hopefully the people making these decisions at SMU know a little more about college football than these just tired old erroneous myths
That is a good illustration.
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by peruna81 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:03 pm
Stallion wrote:that's just not true you mean like Patterson at TCU Briles at UH Sumlin at UH Stoops at OU Gundy at OSU Les Miles at OSU Ron Meyer at SMU Pretty Boy at Tech
these are only the most recent examples of course it also applies to the other great coaches in the history of the Southwest like Royal, Broyles, Switzer, Yeoman, Teaff hopefully the people making these decisions at SMU know a little more about college football than just these tired old erroneous myths
How dare you bring facts into a hypothetical discussion? BTW, I would take 1,2,3,4,7,and 8 as the next coach, for what it is worth.
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by SMU 86 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:21 pm
Let's not forget Strong at Louisville, Kelly at Oregon, and Pat Fitzgerald at NW.
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by CalallenStang » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:23 pm
Stallion wrote:that's just not true you mean like Patterson at TCU Briles at UH Sumlin at UH Stoops at OU Gundy at OSU Les Miles at OSU Ron Meyer at SMU Pretty Boy at Tech
these are only the most recent examples of course it also applies to the other great coaches in the history of the Southwest like Royal, Broyles, Switzer, Yeoman, Teaff hopefully the people making these decisions at SMU know a little more about college football than just these tired old erroneous myths
Ron Meyer at UNLV, you mean
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by CalallenStang » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:24 pm
SMU 86 wrote:Let's not forget Strong at Louisville, Kelly at Oregon, and Pat Fitzgerald at NW.
Nice additions. Helfrich at Oregon is better example than Kelley though (Kelley was HC at New Hampshire, but that's an FCS school so not sure if that's what you were going for or not)
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:29 pm
Todd Graham at Rice-first Bowl in a Half Century Tulsa has had great success in hiring nobodies in FB and BB
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by sbsmith » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:31 pm
CalallenStang wrote:SMU 86 wrote:Let's not forget Strong at Louisville, Kelly at Oregon, and Pat Fitzgerald at NW.
Nice additions. Helfrich at Oregon is better example than Kelley though (Kelley was HC at New Hampshire, but that's an FCS school so not sure if that's what you were going for or not)
Kelly was never HC at New Hampshire (served as OC there from 1999-2006 before being hired by former Oregon HC Mike Bellotti), just like Helfrich he took over the Oregon HC job after first serving as OC.
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by Stallion » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:31 pm
UNLV went Division 1A though in 1978 several years after Ron Meyer Stanford took a similar gamble on Jim Harbaugh from the University of San Diego Dabo Swinney is another great assistant hire I think enthusiasm, personality and commitment are really important for a school like SMU that really needs to rally its alumni and recruiting. College Football is a young man's game
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by jkflamebo » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:57 pm
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by SoCal_Pony » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:03 pm
Statler wrote:Still say 6-6 bowl game and the tiki one still here.
I think the odds of this are almost 50/50. Which means another year lost on a closing window.
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by SMUer » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:37 pm
What about Ron Meyer again?!?...you'd get a pretty-talking recruiter-coach with old school Texas clout (a la Mack Brown) and surround him with young, on-the-rise assistants with the money you'd save. Maybe try to snag a promising coordinator with some sort of coach-in-waiting promise. I know we couldn't get a top coordinator here without the full head coach title, but it isn't a terrible emergency plan B IMO. Perhaps if one certain head coach retired before the end of his contract was up...
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