That 6-6 Season

SoCal_Pony · Post by **SoCal_Pony** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:51 pm

That some use as proof that we 'had the talent' / 'turned the corner' / were 'bowl worthy'...

Came against the following opponents per Sagarin

Loss to TTech - ranked #36
Loss to NTSU - ranked #148
Win over Sam Houston State - ranked #174
Win over Ark State - ranked #115
Win over Tulane - ranked #116
Loss to UTEP - ranked #103
Win over Marshall - ranked #102
Loss to ECU - ranked #67
Win over UAB - ranked #103
Loss to Houston - ranked #54
Win over Tulsa - ranked #65
Loss to Rice - ranked #88

Take out Texas Tech and Houston, and we had 10 opponents with an average Sagarin rating of ~110, yet we couldn't get the job done.

Hardly a sign of 'improvement' IMO

Dwan · Post by **Dwan** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:59 pm

i have always felt that last year was worst case scenario.....we did enough not to fire Bennett, but not enough to go to a bowl game...Orsini so wanted to fire Phil because of the facts mentioned in your post

Pony Soup · Post by **Pony Soup** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:01 pm

This is what I have been saying all along. We should have won a MINIMUM 9 games last year, probably 10. Hopefully it will be a blessing in disguise as we get a sweet coaching hire done that wouldnt have happened last year.

SMU_is_bowling · Post by **SMU_is_bowling** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:02 pm

since joining C-USA when have we played a tough schedule?? beat who you have on your schedule, easier said than done, but that is all you can do!

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:03 pm

we were what we were-a mediocre team in a poor conference. We were no where close to a 10-2 team-that's laughable and shows you are a very poor judge of talent.

Pony Soup · Post by **Pony Soup** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:06 pm

Stallion wrote:we were what we were-a mediocre team in a poor conference. We were no where close to a 10-2 team-that's laughable and shows you are a very poor judge of talent.

Again, we should have beat UNT, UTEP (didnt play willis), Houston, and Rice. I think that goes from 6-6 to 10-2. There is NO doubt we should have won at least 3 of those.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:09 pm

No doubt huh. Just didn't happen. No doubt. I predicted 6-6-what did you have preseason?

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:15 pm

Playing in CUSA we're lucky if we ever meet a program +75...so what?...win 7 games against the opponents you schedule, go to a bowl. Pretty simple formula. That is what Bennett promised us/said he could do last year and this year.

A lot you point to Bennett's last statements and proclaim "SEE!?! SEE!?! SMU can't get the athletes we need because we don't have the majors they want!" Why don't you also acknowledge with equal weight what Bennett said/felt about having everything he needed, including academic facilities and players, to take SMU to a bowl game. We can blame talent as the major obstacle preventing us from being able to beat Big 12 teams...but the Rice game?!? UTEP?!? Coaching debacles, my friend, are what has kept SMU from reaching its program goals the last 2-4 years.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:17 pm

Because he lied to get and keep a job. So did every Coach and AD at this school since the DP. Pony Up!

Pony Soup · Post by **Pony Soup** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:20 pm

Stallion wrote:No doubt huh. Just didn't happen. No doubt. I predicted 6-6-what did you have preseason?

Hey - all time best talent grader, personal bell ringer, and monday morning QB. Nice prediction for this year: 6-6??? You rule.

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:21 pm

but he didn't lie to make his situation seem hopeless so that he looks better? selective hearing my friend.

Dwan · Post by **Dwan** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:44 pm

Bennett wears Bikini briefs

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:49 pm

Stallion wrote:Because he lied to get and keep a job. So did every Coach and AD at this school since the DP. Pony Up!

Unlucky for him because Orsini agreed with him that he did have everything he needed and that's why he doesn't have a job.

He would've been MUCH better off saying "You know Steve, I didn't understand how hard this task would be when I got here. I AM the right guy for the job but I need X, Y and Z to happen before we can honestly compete for a bowl win. Get me those and in two seasons I'll turn this around." A good reminder that honesty is the best policy, especially when you are in the middle of a "hopeless" losing situation.

Stallion · Post by **Stallion** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:11 pm

That's exactly what he did with Copeland and Orsini. Your knowledge of SMU Football simply horrible. EDUCATE YOURSELF or shut up and learn -its getting old.

SMUer · Post by **SMUer** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:18 pm

Stallion wrote:That's exactly what he did with Copeland and Orsini. Your knowledge of SMU Football simply horrible. EDUCATE YOURSELF or shut up and learn -its getting old.

Everybody absolutely LOVES your posts. They aren't redundant at all! From what I've seen, I'm one of the few on here that thinks that all that was preventing us from a bowl win was a new HC who knew basic Xs and Os. That's called diversity of opinion and one day or another you might have be faced with/be forced to accept it in the world you live in. If Bennett is a liar about having everything he needed, you are picking and choosing only quotes that feed what you want to hear if you believe that majors offered is the main factor for SMU not meeting its program goals. The reality is probably somewhere in between but leaning toward the coaching issue.