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Postby Chuck Norris » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:50 am

Don't know if this has been posted but June pulled another one

SMU pulls offer: Holland Hall's Matt Allen, a Tulsa World All-State offensive lineman, committed to Southern Methodist last summer, but had his scholarship offer pulled last week by new coach June Jones, who was hired earlier this month. Several other Mustangs recruits have also reportedly suffered that fate.

Allen, without another major college football option at this point, is leaning to playing for Princeton.

"That's been the backup plan for a few weeks," Holland Hall coach Tag Gross said. "We started becoming worried when SMU had not named a new coach in December. It's very frustrating. It's a reminder that major college football is big business."

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Postby Dutch » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:53 am

Take Note Owens: back-up plan in place.
Ok this is getting ridiculous...I agree with Dutch on THIS ONE POST by him totally
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Postby George S. Patton » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:59 am

A case where the high school coach helped his kid look for other options. I think we all recognized that this was a severe reach by the Bennett staff.

And the coach had the right perspective on this -- college athletics is a big business whether we like it or not. We always talk about choosing a school is the first major decision of one's life.

Looks like Princeton is a pretty nice plan. Good luck to Matt Allen.

I think also illustrates how poor the Bennett staff evaluated OL and DL and that Jones' staff has a different and perhaps better system.

That should make BUS happy -- get some real linemen. That's where you win and lose games. See Rice 2006.
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Postby dcpony » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:04 am

Recruting is a two way street. These kids can bail on the school at the last second as well.

What I'm oppposed to are schools/coaches that pull scholarships from athletes once they're enrolled. It's my understanding that SMU doesn't practice this.

In regards to this commitment I have no problem with JJ pulling an offer from a kid who played football in the SPC. The fact is, you don't see too many successful programs with a lot of kids from Kincaid, Holland Hall, St Johns, etc...on their rosters.
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Postby 2112 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:21 am

looks like these kids are not d-1 material
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Postby SMUer » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:16 am

I well, I guess I'll go to Princeton as a backup plan, shucks...

Prediction: I think June Jones will get a thank you letter from Matt Allen some day.
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Postby FWMustang » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:36 am

dcpony wrote:In regards to this commitment I have no problem with JJ pulling an offer from a kid who played football in the SPC. The fact is, you don't see too many successful programs with a lot of kids from Kincaid, Holland Hall, St Johns, etc...on their rosters.


Hey, don't knock SPC. It's the Conference USA of high school Football in TX...Okay, bad example.

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Postby dcpony » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:27 pm

Gosh, I remember Cavan and Bennett always having at least between 3-6 guys on the roster from an SPC school or some prep school in SEC country like MBA...I knew one who got a scholarship coming out of Kinkaid, he eventually dropped out of school. The others were walk ons I guess...

The last SPC kid I remember doing anything in D-1 football is probably that St Marks' guy who plays or played at UT.
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Postby mavsrage311 » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:34 pm

George S. Patton wrote: I think we all recognized that this was a severe reach by the Bennett staff.


Just this one, general?
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Postby me@smu » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:02 pm

dcpony wrote:Gosh, I remember Cavan and Bennett always having at least between 3-6 guys on the roster from an SPC school or some prep school in SEC country like MBA...I knew one who got a scholarship coming out of Kinkaid, he eventually dropped out of school. The others were walk ons I guess...

The last SPC kid I remember doing anything in D-1 football is probably that St Marks' guy who plays or played at UT.


Think the St. Marks' kid you are talking about is Sam Acho who signed with UT last year. Or His little brother Emmanuel who will sign this year.

Also MBA put out a pretty big time kid named Preston Bailey this year who is signing with TN. Also the #1 center prospect in the nation, Barrett Jones, is from one of those SEC prep schools and going to Bama.

It is surprising how often those schools produce serious talent...look at St. Thomas Aquinas in Florida.
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Postby FWMustangGirl » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:03 pm

dcpony wrote:Recruting is a two way street. These kids can bail on the school at the last second as well.

What I'm oppposed to are schools/coaches that pull scholarships from athletes once they're enrolled. It's my understanding that SMU doesn't practice this.

In regards to this commitment I have no problem with JJ pulling an offer from a kid who played football in the SPC. The fact is, you don't see too many successful programs with a lot of kids from Kincaid, Holland Hall, St Johns, etc...on their rosters.


Having graduated from an SPC school, I would have to agree.
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Postby FWMustangGirl » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:10 pm

dcpony wrote:Gosh, I remember Cavan and Bennett always having at least between 3-6 guys on the roster from an SPC school or some prep school in SEC country like MBA...I knew one who got a scholarship coming out of Kinkaid, he eventually dropped out of school. The others were walk ons I guess...

The last SPC kid I remember doing anything in D-1 football is probably that St Marks' guy who plays or played at UT.


Trinity Valley had Michael Ungar who played at Texas, but he's been out about 5 years now, I think.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:12 pm

Patrick Jeffers was a private school kid at Ft. Worth Country Day and walked on to Virginia and had a few years in the NFL; drafted in the 5th round and had half a season with the Cowboys, I think. 1,000 yard receiving season once. That was years ago.
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Postby FWMustangGirl » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:23 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:Patrick Jeffers was a private school kid at Ft. Worth Country Day and walked on to Virginia and had a few years in the NFL; drafted in the 5th round and had half a season with the Cowboys, I think. 1,000 yard receiving season once. That was years ago.


Yep, and Patrick's sister is married to Derek Dooley. (For your SMU connection) :)
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Postby me@smu » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:43 pm

Just because I am bored and it was on their website (D1 in bold):

SPC 2007 graduates that are playing Football in college:
Robert Davidson - All Saints - Trinity University
McKenzie McMahan - Casady - Colorado College
Mathew Abola - Cistercian - Princeton
Chase Campbell - Cicerstcian - Princeton
Brock Mansion - ESD - Cal
Travis Adams - Episcopal High School - Air Force
Alvin Jordan - Greenhill - UL Monroe

Matt Oh - Greenhill - Dartmouth
Adam Hawkins - Holland Hall - DePauw
Burris Smith - Holland Hall - DePauw
Mitch Adwon - Holland Hall - Princeton
Nick Gates - Holland Hall - Tulsa
Ronan Rogers - Holland Hall - Army

Ryan Woodard - Holland Hall - DePauw
John Spradling - Kinkaid - Dartmouth
Eddie O'Connor - Oakridge - Dakota State
Danny Ball - St. John's - Brown
Mitchell Nimocks - St. John's - Tufts
David Sklar - St. John's - Harvard
Eugene Wu - St. John's - Carnegie Mellon
Sam Acho - St. Marks - Texas
Humberto Martinez - St. Marks - Austin College
Chema Domenech - St. Stephens - Wake Forest
Sam Kenter - St. Stephens - Washington State
Nevin Watkins - St. Stephens - Washington State
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