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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby Treadway21 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:39 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:
ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.


I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.


June is very loyal which is very admirable. He did a wonderful job turning SMU around. He was the right guy at the right time. But now we are here, we desperately need to make that next step.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby blackoutpony » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:39 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:
ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.


I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.


Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby mustangxc » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:58 am

blackoutpony wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:
ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.


I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.


Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


Technically it is 5 given our appearance in the CUSA championship + 4 bowl games.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby Mustangsabu » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:59 am

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Mustangsabu wrote:
ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.


I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.


Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


It's 5. And my post contained no excuses, just facts. We hired June to bring in a scheme that would translate quickly into wins. I'm not excusing his approach to bringing in players, but simply staying that it is part of his philosophy. People want a coaching staff that will go after better regarded recruits. And people are willing to let go of the system, which has not performed like it did at Hawaii. I quite understand that and I think at the end of this season we will be able to make the right decision.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby ponyboy » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:23 pm

blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:

a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or

b) move on with a coach who will.

How is that now offering a solution?
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby mrydel » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:41 pm

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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby couch 'em » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:16 pm

ponyboy wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:

a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or

b) move on with a coach who will.

How is that now offering a solution?
well if you need to force a coach to hire certain assistants it is time to move on, so really your solution is to fire June. So everyone agrees. What are we arguing about?
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby Stallion » Wed Sep 18, 2013 1:40 pm

even throwing out the poor inaugural season in 2008-June Jones is like 3 games over .500 against Division 1A programs playing in CUSA with unprecedented curiculum changes in the Model.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby Mustangsabu » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:09 pm

ponyboy wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:

a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or

b) move on with a coach who will.

How is that now offering a solution?


Exactly. Feel free to speak for me :)
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby Mustangsabu » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:19 pm

couch 'em wrote:
ponyboy wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:

a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or

b) move on with a coach who will.

How is that now offering a solution?
well if you need to force a coach to hire certain assistants it is time to move on, so really your solution is to fire June. So everyone agrees. What are we arguing about?


Personally I think keeping June or Hal and having a stud recruiting staff would be the best answer.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby sbsmith » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:34 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:
Personally I think keeping June or Hal and having a stud recruiting staff would be the best answer.




June couldn't handle dealing with just one stud recruiter and Mumme isn't exactly big on NCAA compliance.
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Re: You're in Charge - Channel Your Inner Klemm

Postby blackoutpony » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:08 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:
ponyboy wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.


I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:

a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or

b) move on with a coach who will.

How is that now offering a solution?


Exactly. Feel free to speak for me :)


I was actually talking in general terms about excuses and I'm surprised to see ponyboy saying to potentially move on :shock:

Also, I was watching Bar Rescue last night and I love that John Taffer quote so I felt compelled to throw it in. 8)
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