June is very loyal which is very admirable. He did a wonderful job turning SMU around. He was the right guy at the right time. But now we are here, we desperately need to make that next step.Mustangsabu wrote:I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.
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Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.Mustangsabu wrote:I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.
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Technically it is 5 given our appearance in the CUSA championship + 4 bowl games.blackoutpony wrote:Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.Mustangsabu wrote:I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.
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It's 5. And my post contained no excuses, just facts. We hired June to bring in a scheme that would translate quickly into wins. I'm not excusing his approach to bringing in players, but simply staying that it is part of his philosophy. People want a coaching staff that will go after better regarded recruits. And people are willing to let go of the system, which has not performed like it did at Hawaii. I quite understand that and I think at the end of this season we will be able to make the right decision.blackoutpony wrote:Um, it's 4 buddy. And the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.Mustangsabu wrote:I agree with this. June is about loyalty and his system. Recruiting is not a priority. And this philosophy put SMU on the map again and has given us 5 post season games in five years. There is huge groundswell for aggressive recruiting and there is a choice to me made by the administration.ponyscott wrote:The past two posts are exactly right...its about a can do vs a can not. I admire JJ's loyalty but that won't cut it in recruiting circles...older retreads with no national recruiting prowess.
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I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or
b) move on with a coach who will.
How is that now offering a solution?
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well if you need to force a coach to hire certain assistants it is time to move on, so really your solution is to fire June. So everyone agrees. What are we arguing about?ponyboy wrote:I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or
b) move on with a coach who will.
How is that now offering a solution?
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even throwing out the poor inaugural season in 2008-June Jones is like 3 games over .500 against Division 1A programs playing in CUSA with unprecedented curiculum changes in the Model.
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Exactly. Feel free to speak for meponyboy wrote:I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or
b) move on with a coach who will.
How is that now offering a solution?

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Personally I think keeping June or Hal and having a stud recruiting staff would be the best answer.couch 'em wrote:well if you need to force a coach to hire certain assistants it is time to move on, so really your solution is to fire June. So everyone agrees. What are we arguing about?ponyboy wrote:I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or
b) move on with a coach who will.
How is that now offering a solution?
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Mustangsabu wrote:
Personally I think keeping June or Hal and having a stud recruiting staff would be the best answer.
June couldn't handle dealing with just one stud recruiter and Mumme isn't exactly big on NCAA compliance.
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I was actually talking in general terms about excuses and I'm surprised to see ponyboy saying to potentially move onMustangsabu wrote:Exactly. Feel free to speak for meponyboy wrote:I don't mean to speak for Abu, but we've been giving you solutions. The solution is to be thankful for what's June has done, realize that, after a precipitious rise that would have made us wet ourselves with excitement back when he was hired, we've plateaued under him, and to:blackoutpony wrote:...the June supporters, such as yourself, only embrace excuses and not solutions.
a) force June to get new assistants who will recruit; or
b) move on with a coach who will.
How is that now offering a solution?

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