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Re: SMU student senate

Postby smustatesman » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:20 pm

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Mustang Mania 1980 wrote:With the Neanderthal attitudes expressed here, it is obvious that a known gay person could not be elected to the student senate. Therefore, the seat is needed to provide representation. Maybe then some will get to know that gay people are like anyone else.

It has already happened several times.


Isn't our current and two time student body president gay as well?

No. He's a crustacean. :roll:
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby ponyboy » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:08 pm

Mustang Mania 1980 wrote:Why do you need "a position" on homosexuality if you are not gay?


Loving your neighbor requires the position.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby NY Pony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:23 pm

ponyboy wrote:
Mustang Mania 1980 wrote:Why do you need "a position" on homosexuality if you are not gay?


Loving your neighbor requires the position.


Should he assume the position? That's the question I have.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby NY Pony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:24 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
couch 'em wrote:
Mustang Mania 1980 wrote:With the Neanderthal attitudes expressed here, it is obvious that a known gay person could not be elected to the student senate. Therefore, the seat is needed to provide representation. Maybe then some will get to know that gay people are like anyone else.

It has already happened several times.


Isn't our current and two time student body president gay as well?


All that can be confirmed is that he's a sig Ep
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby gostangs » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:15 pm

Mustang mania 1980 - why do you assume someone attitude about this is Neanderthal, just because it doesn't line up with yours? Thinking someone can't have different opinion, and also judging them by where they live, seems Neanderthal to me.

Also I see you joined just to talk about this subject. Welcome to Ponyfans. Usually we talk about sports.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby CalallenStang » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:40 pm

Some of the comments on this thread are shocking. That being said...and not that it matters since I'm not a student, but:

I am against this seat. I'm not against the LGBT community, but I am against special-interest seats. The color of your skin or your sexual orientation shouldn't entitle you to a special way to get onto the student senate. We should elect the best candidates for the open positions, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, creed, or nationality.

We need to promote equality of opportunity. Special interest seats institutionalize an unequal society.

Geez, if this is allowed to continue, we will soon have special interest seats for the following groups:

-Scholarship recipients above the median scholarship amount
-Pell Grant Recipients
-People with first names that dropped out of popularity in the 1930s
-Students above age 22

All of those listed groups above are minorities on campus.

It's time for equality. It's time to end special interest seats and give everyone a fair shot at winning the responsibility of representing the student body.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby RGV Pony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:17 pm

How about a plural marriage/polyamourous seat?
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby couch 'em » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:51 pm

Polygamy is the next civil rights crusade for sure. I'm ok with it.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby blackoutpony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:59 pm

Calallen for the win.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby SoCal_Pony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:34 pm

blackoutpony wrote:Isn't our current and two time president gay as well?


Let's keep politics out of this.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby SoCal_Pony » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:40 pm

Mustang Mania 1980 wrote:
ponyboy wrote:
Lakewood Mustang wrote:Let's take up your "lifestyle" -- oh that's right, it's none of my business what you do in bed - or do you care to elucidate us?


I've stated that homosexuality won't ultimately bring those who choose it fulfillment. I never suggested we stop anyone from pursuing the choice. It's a tragedy not a crime.


How judgmental and condescending - oh now I get it, I see where you live.


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Re: SMU student senate

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:30 am

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East Coast Mustang wrote:Good to see the vote for the special seat failed. Having sex with an atypical partner shouldn't entitle you to a spot on the student senate; the respect of your peers should.

I am not sure that a separate seat is needed but what may be atypical for you maybe perfectly normal for someone else. Just saying.

I meant atypical in the sense that most people in the population are heterosexual.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby Fresno Mustang » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:55 am

The majority of the student body who voted against the seat, including myself, voted on principal and against the idea of having special interest seats. The Daily Campus can quote anonymous posting websites and apps (yik yak) and accuse the vast majority of the campus of being bigots but the reality is that special interest seats are pointless and actually further divide a student body. The fact that the vote was given a "revote" like this was the 2000 Florida election with Al Gore actually drove moderate swing voters towards the side of voting against it as many students are simply sick and tired of constantly hearing about this election on social media and other forums.

I would be willing to bet someone their season basketball tickets for next season (since I dont have any) that there are multiple homosexual senators on the student senate right now that were elected by their school they major in. Thus showing a gay person can be elected with ease to the student senate.

Andddd with all this said, student senate for the most part (99%) of it is absolutely pointless. I even managed to get elected to it and had like 70 total votes :lol:
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby smusportspage » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:31 am

East Coast Mustang wrote:
smusportspage wrote:
East Coast Mustang wrote:Good to see the vote for the special seat failed. Having sex with an atypical partner shouldn't entitle you to a spot on the student senate; the respect of your peers should.

I am not sure that a separate seat is needed but what may be atypical for you maybe perfectly normal for someone else. Just saying.

I meant atypical in the sense that most people in the population are heterosexual.

Thanks for the clarification. I should have realized that.
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Re: SMU student senate

Postby NewAgeMustange » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:02 am

I'm glad the vote failed. These special interest seats don't need to to keep self-populating themselves. I brought this thread back to light because of the nature of the seat and less of the details around it. There have been and there will be gay members of the student senate, even previous presidents have been part of that community. If the issues that they want to bring up are that dire that they (as a community) need a seat, Why can't they petition RLSH. It seemed that they were using the seat and the gender-neutral housing to justify having a special interest seat.
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