Just want to say that I am now on board with starting Phillips. If our o-line is going to be that horrible, he is the only one who has a chance in hell of doing anything.
Also, during the game, he was very involved on the sidelines, not just with play calling but when there were huddles on the sidelines. Eckert was off not really paying much attention.
Play Phillips!
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by Ponymon » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:57 pm
Bennett only likes to play his starters, which is why you probably won't see Phillips this year. (It doesn't make any sense to me either since it is now obvious that the JC starter are only good in relief roles.)
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by Charleston Pony » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:38 pm
how many more embarrassing losses before Bennett starts thinking about next year and getting Phillips ready? I figure these next two on the road could be ugly with this totally inept offense.
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by The XtC » Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:07 am
Yes, under your scenario, it would be possible to redshirt him this year, if they had not petitioned for a medical redshirt for last year. Its certainly possible, but that scenario opens up a flood of new questions, beginning with "Why they Hell didnt they?"
As I understand the rules, the cut off in an 11 game season is 3 games. Playing a single snap in a game counts as a full games participation, and the 3 games you played in must be in the first half of the season.
Phillips was injured against TCU, played the first half against OSU, and practiced the entire week prior to San Jose State. A relative told me that he was told Thursday before San Jose that he would be redshirted, and would not play the rest of the year. I admit that part is 2nd hand hearsay, and I also cannot find any kind of official word from the school that Phillips got a medical redshirt. BUT:
If he wasnt going to be redshirted, why hold him out the full season?
If we havent petitioned for a medical redshirt, why didnt we? He was still within the allowable limit.
If his injury was serious enough to be out the entire year, why did he play at OSU?
It occurred to me that the conference switch may have played a role, because medical redshirts are petitioned to your conference, not the NCAA. But I also know of 2 basketball players and 1 swimmer who got medical redshirts last year, (for the womens basketball player, it was her 2nd medical RS, 6th year waiver,) so it appears it should have still been possible.
Your scenario is possible. It doesnt make sense to me, but I will concede that not making sense doesnt mean it didnt happen.
If they do use an ordinary redshirt for him this year, they cannot retro-actively go back and ask for another medical redshirt for the previous year, or any prior year. If I read your post correctly, I think that was what you were asking. The injury must occur after the regular redshirt season, and even then getting a 6th year isnt guaranteed. Usually it is still 5 years to play 4 seasons.
As I understand the rules, the cut off in an 11 game season is 3 games. Playing a single snap in a game counts as a full games participation, and the 3 games you played in must be in the first half of the season.
Phillips was injured against TCU, played the first half against OSU, and practiced the entire week prior to San Jose State. A relative told me that he was told Thursday before San Jose that he would be redshirted, and would not play the rest of the year. I admit that part is 2nd hand hearsay, and I also cannot find any kind of official word from the school that Phillips got a medical redshirt. BUT:
If he wasnt going to be redshirted, why hold him out the full season?
If we havent petitioned for a medical redshirt, why didnt we? He was still within the allowable limit.
If his injury was serious enough to be out the entire year, why did he play at OSU?
It occurred to me that the conference switch may have played a role, because medical redshirts are petitioned to your conference, not the NCAA. But I also know of 2 basketball players and 1 swimmer who got medical redshirts last year, (for the womens basketball player, it was her 2nd medical RS, 6th year waiver,) so it appears it should have still been possible.
Your scenario is possible. It doesnt make sense to me, but I will concede that not making sense doesnt mean it didnt happen.
If they do use an ordinary redshirt for him this year, they cannot retro-actively go back and ask for another medical redshirt for the previous year, or any prior year. If I read your post correctly, I think that was what you were asking. The injury must occur after the regular redshirt season, and even then getting a 6th year isnt guaranteed. Usually it is still 5 years to play 4 seasons.
Try not to choke on the Kool-Aid.
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by mrydel » Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:38 am
You read my post correctly. I was thinking perhaps there could be a retroactive medical redshirt if it had not yet been filed, but apparently not. None of this is making a lot of sense to me unless Phillips just has not been able to grasp some of the offense, which seems doubtful since every team we play understands it very well. Maybe someday we will find out what is going on with him and why he is not playing. He looks fit, he is active on the sideline, and he has the combined abilities of Romo and Eckert. I just do not know.
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