devil's advocate

[Stallion]

I think its pretty obvious that the Strength and Condition program is an absolute bust. Even if they were lightly recruited you still shouldn't be physically dominated like this. I think when we saw about 5 guys INCLUDING A 3RD YEAR STARTER come in at the wrong weight then you got to ask yourself what were they doing in the offseason. What is even more a joke is when Coaches are surprised when a starting DE comes in at a LB weight. Who was in charge-who was supervising the players. Nobody was home. Head Coach and his staff had checked out early

[sbsmith]

Is it a possibility that the staff was right about a lot of the ditr recruiting but the talent has just been poorly developed? Because the team has looked more competent each week and is a far way from the Baylor train wreck. Maybe the cupboard won't be quite as bare for the next coach as we have thought. Not to say that major overhaul is not needed however

The staff was wrong about the DITR recruiting and the talent has been poorly developed. It's going to take three phenomenal recruiting classes before the new guy has any legit depth. This whole team will be instantly recruited over.

[Rebel10]

Because the team has looked more competent each week and is a far way from the Baylor train wreck.

We are now back to the train wreck.

[ponyte]

In general we are a solid step too slow, lack quickness, weak and in general too small. Other than that, it a pretty talented group

[PonySnob]

In general we are a solid step too slow, lack quickness, weak and in general too small. Other than that, it a pretty talented group

DITR recruiting at its finest!


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[Charleston Pony]

In general we are a solid step too slow, lack quickness, weak and in general too small. Other than that, it a pretty talented group

how many times were we reminded this was the most athletic group JJ had since he arrived?

[ftworthmustang]

In general we are a solid step too slow, lack quickness, weak and in general too small. Other than that, it a pretty talented group

Agree, the guys that are big enough are too slow. The guys who are fast enough are too small. We seem to be OK on D, when we guess right. When we guess wrong, its a big play or TD. We can't play straight up with anyone on D right now. Can't even talk about the offense.........

[lwjr]

In general we are a solid step too slow, lack quickness, weak and in general too small. Other than that, it a pretty talented group

how many times were we reminded this was the most athletic group JJ had since he arrived?

He had to come up with some BS. No one would expected him to say, this is the least talented group I have ever had. Then again most fans knew this was going to be ugly this year.

[redpony]

ironic that the D is doing better than the O and our 'former over-paid, lazy arse' coach was supposed to be an offensive guru. he was offensive ok- I am offended most every offensive play that I see

[vielsiehorsepower]

I think its pretty obvious that the Strength and Condition program is an absolute bust. Even if they were lightly recruited you still shouldn't be physically dominated like this. I think when we saw about 5 guys INCLUDING A 3RD YEAR STARTER come in at the wrong weight then you got to ask yourself what were they doing in the offseason. What is even more a joke is when Coaches are surprised when a starting DE comes in at a LB weight. Who was in charge-who was supervising the players. Nobody was home. Head Coach and his staff had checked out early

Interestingly enough I have a story.. I used to train under a strength and conditioning coach who interned at smu in 08/09 and then at tcu the following season. He told me that the s&c coach for smu (I don't know if it's the same guy) was one of June's buddies who needed a job and didn't really know anything..he used a lot of body building techniques as opposed to athletic development ones. Apparently every time he left the room all of the other interns would try not to lose it because this guy was so clueless. He then went to tcu where he said he saw how a s&c program should be run. He actually said that the incoming athletes at smu were actually ahead of a good number of the incoming tcu players, but tcu just did an astronomically better job of development

[RGV Pony]

Yep sounds like you pegged our guy

[couch 'em]

Yep sounds like you pegged our guy

NTTAWWT

[yakastang]

Yup! Were a little disadvantaged on speed at SMU partly because we don't have men's track. Noticed a number of TCU's players were track stars. Know of at least one speedster that wanted to come to SMU for football but ended up at a Cal. school because he wanted track as well.

[Grant Carter]

I think its pretty obvious that the Strength and Condition program is an absolute bust. Even if they were lightly recruited you still shouldn't be physically dominated like this. I think when we saw about 5 guys INCLUDING A 3RD YEAR STARTER come in at the wrong weight then you got to ask yourself what were they doing in the offseason. What is even more a joke is when Coaches are surprised when a starting DE comes in at a LB weight. Who was in charge-who was supervising the players. Nobody was home. Head Coach and his staff had checked out early

Interestingly enough I have a story.. I used to train under a strength and conditioning coach who interned at smu in 08/09 and then at tcu the following season. He told me that the s&c coach for smu (I don't know if it's the same guy) was one of June's buddies who needed a job and didn't really know anything..he used a lot of body building techniques as opposed to athletic development ones. Apparently every time he left the room all of the other interns would try not to lose it because this guy was so clueless. He then went to tcu where he said he saw how a s&c program should be run. He actually said that the incoming athletes at smu were actually ahead of a good number of the incoming tcu players, but tcu just did an astronomically better job of development

The strength and conditioning coach in 2008-2009 was Vic Viloria who is now the strength and conditioning coach for Florida State. Seems like he might be pretty good, but I am sure you buddy knows more than him..

As you mentioned it is not the same guy now, but also Vic was not a june buddy who needed a job to my knowledge. He was a former smu player who had worked at LSU previously. It seems like your buddy might be confused about when he interned at smu.

[CalallenStang]

vielsiehorsepower - "Much the horsepower?" Your name confuses me