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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby footballdad » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:52 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
lwjr wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Doak never had his good friend resign on a job (that the friend complained to him how bad the administration was) that he got him. So we don't know how he would react.

I agree, we don't know how he would act if his best friend quit coaching two games into a season. Knowing what we know about Doak Walker, I'm going to guess he would not be ranting against his school on the Internet. He would take the high road.

All speculation. There have been several SMU coaching searches that Dickerson has never done anything like this. June has brainwashed him. Against his rants sound very similar to Mexmustangs rants. And Mex seemed like a reasonable person before they braineashed him.


"June has brainwashed him"....are you serious? Just keep the excuses coming.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:55 pm

redpony wrote:
Stallion wrote:Truth: Doak went decades without bothering to see SMU play a down


Absolutely not true. I talked with Doak at both Ohio State games in 1950/51. He came down from Detroit to see SMU play in Columbus.


So you are saying there is not potential that in the 4 decades between the 50/51 season and his untimely demise, Doak missed a few games? Or are you saying that 40+ years does not include enough time to be called decades? I do recall the run-up to Ricky Williams last season with the press talking about their relationship and how Doak had not followed football closely for some time.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby footballdad » Sat Sep 27, 2014 7:57 pm

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Roach wrote:Yes, we have a lot of things to fix, obviously, but Dickerson is way out of line to blast the school like this. Considering everything the school did to get him and keep him at SMU, he owes the university eternal praise, or at the very least, silence. Disgraceful.

You mean what Dickerson did for SMU. He had other options (best selected SMU) and he helped SMU become one of the great teams in SMU history.


What a love fest. You should go huddle with Dickerson and June and keep trying to convince the world that June had nothing to do with this. It's over for June and every time Dickerson opens his mouth with this nonsense he loses a little more credibility from the SMU faithful.

But you keep trying.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby footballdad » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:01 pm

Puckhead48E wrote:
redpony wrote:
Stallion wrote:Truth: Doak went decades without bothering to see SMU play a down


Absolutely not true. I talked with Doak at both Ohio State games in 1950/51. He came down from Detroit to see SMU play in Columbus.


So you are saying there is not potential that in the 4 decades between the 50/51 season and his untimely demise, Doak missed a few games? Or are you saying that 40+ years does not include enough time to be called decades? I do recall the run-up to Ricky Williams last season with the press talking about their relationship and how Doak had not followed football closely for some time.


Let's not try to muddy the waters here or compare Doak with Dickerson.

Doak is a true legend. Dickerson is a whiny June apologist who is acting like a big baby. Even lying with a straight face as he stomps his feet, truly pathetic.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby gostangs » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:05 pm

puck - suggestion - separate you paragraphs and write less.

Here is my summary - Eric is an exceptional athlete and a unexceptional thinker.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:09 pm

So you are saying there is not potential that in the 4 decades between the 50/51 season and his untimely demise, Doak missed a few games? Or are you saying that 40+ years does not include enough time to be called decades? I do recall the run-up to Ricky Williams last season with the press talking about their relationship and how Doak had not followed football closely for some time.[/quote]

Let's not try to muddy the waters here or compare Doak with Dickerson.

Doak is a true legend. Dickerson is a whiny June apologist who is acting like a big baby. Even lying with a straight face as he stomps his feet, truly pathetic.[/quote]

Hey Brick, not sure why you are yelling, but no one compared Doak to Dickerson in my post. It was a simple response to a poster who attempted to show Doak didn't separate himself from the program by citing a game in 1950 (the year after he left SMU). I was pointing out that between his last all-american season in 1949 and his death in 1998, the poster cited a game 1 year after he left SMU leaving an entire 47 years open. Then again, from your many posts, logic and reason seem to be an elusive foe.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:21 pm

gostangs wrote:puck - suggestion - separate you paragraphs and write less.

Here is my summary - Eric is an exceptional athlete and a unexceptional thinker.


Agreed to the first point!
Second point..not so fast. ED was an exceptional athlete and an emotional Mustang football fan who latched on to the first seemingly good thing in the football program post 1985. He got attached to the first coach who somehow managed to get Turner to support the program, and it caused him to develop blinders. Now he is angry. He is probably voicing more than just anger about the Jones situation...since Turner and the school crapped on former Mustang greats for over a decade. And what do we expect...everyone to blindly support the program no matter their thoughts? We are NOT PENN STATE (apples and oranges, I know, until you live in PA and hear people here talk about how the assist. coach and the abuse victims were anti PSU football and anti Paterno and that all the claims were false plants by OSU and other teams). Blind support of the program got us in a sticky situation before....you know what I mean. How about we worry about the program and give ED and CJ and all the rest of our alumni a reason to support Mustang Football again.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby orguy » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:52 pm

Thank you Puckhead48E. Nice synopsis.

Dickerson is just a frustrated fan. I'm happy that he at least gives a crap about the program and is not afraid to voice his thoughts.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby ReedFrawg » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:53 pm

orguy wrote:Thank you Puckhead48E. Nice synopsis.

Dickerson is just a frustrated fan. I'm happy that he at least gives a crap about the program and is not afraid to voice his thoughts.


But its not constructive criticism.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Puckhead48E » Sat Sep 27, 2014 11:05 pm

ReedFrawg wrote:
orguy wrote:Thank you Puckhead48E. Nice synopsis.

Dickerson is just a frustrated fan. I'm happy that he at least gives a crap about the program and is not afraid to voice his thoughts.


But its not constructive criticism.


Well, why would anyone go all constructive right now and break what is a growing trend of exceptional counterproductivity!
On a similar theme, I think we have found something we can excel at!
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby ojaipony » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:42 am

What if these "recruiting restrictions" that everyone talks about at SMU have absolutely nothing to do with academics? I think Stallion has pointed out many times here that there are no academic type restrictions on our FB recruiting. Standards are not higher than NCAA. Personally, I think it's about money. There are "rules" and personally I believe the CoC and those types, who don't want to go anywhere near the pony excess days (and I'm assuming most if not all of those boosters are not around the program anymore). Were guys like Ford involved back then? These are all "newer" guys who want it to be super clean, but ED and others know that you have to play the game at some level to at least compete. Frankly, I think this is what this is all about. I have no insider information but I think we just aren't willing to pay a nickel and that's the issue while everyone else is. And, now guys like Bease and T Reed, probably hear from pro guys all the time about how they got paid. Again, the "rules" and "support" from the "community". All code words for getting PAID. (my opinion).
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Rayburn » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:49 am

Stallion wrote:Truth: Doak went decades without bothering to see SMU play a down


Hmmmmmm. Are you sure of that? Even when he lived in Michigan and Colorado he found ways of seeing the Ponies play. He went to the 1969 Michigan State game in East Lansing and I know he attended at least a couple of games in the 1990s when Dr. Pepper sponsored the Doak Walker Award.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby Treadway21 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:57 am

Not talking about Doak going to games I am talking about his class as an individual. He never bashed the program that have him fame.

I hope ED is doing this to put pressure on Turner to give the program the tools and commitment to win rather than bashing SMU out of some kind of misguided loyalty to June.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby PonyKris89 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:28 am

ojaipony wrote: ...but ED and others know that you have to play the game at some level to at least compete. Frankly, I think this is what this is all about. I have no insider information but I think we just aren't willing to pay a nickel and that's the issue while everyone else is. And, now guys like Bease and T Reed, probably hear from pro guys all the time about how they got paid. Again, the "rules" and "support" from the "community". All code words for getting PAID. (my opinion).


Yeah OjaiPony, I would not be surprised if there is a lot of this thinking behind some of these guys comments, and if so, I would be right there with them in this opinion. But I just wish they would vent those feelings/opinions privately if they feel the need to
and root on publicly the Ponies on the field and administrative efforts.

This piling on crap is one thing for us PFers, but they need to be holding themselves to a much higher standard of diplomacy. As these things come out, it isn't helping their image and it is definitely hurting SMU's image.
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Re: Another Dickerson Tweet

Postby 35straight » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:30 am

You never let anyone outside the family know what you're thinking.


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