ReedFrawg wrote:This is when you need the AD to pick up the phone and call these guys. Call dickerson, beasley, etc and get them involved. Ask for their input and get them to be part of the solution. Thats what I would try anyway.
SMU can't even get the local talking heads on the radio to side with us. Highly doubt that we could get these guys on board. It's a shame, really; SMU gave these players a free education and publicity, not JJ.
ReedFrawg wrote:This is when you need the AD to pick up the phone and call these guys. Call dickerson, beasley, etc and get them involved. Ask for their input and get them to be part of the solution. Thats what I would try anyway.
Please, we've heard this one before, no Thanks. Let's take the dumbest and most brainwashed of the entire Juneses cult and invite them in to 'help' the program? WTF
I say no negotiating with terrorists. Better to blow up their home with a drone!
And....amateur hour makes another appearance. It's hard to imbue success in an organization that defines failure. Luckily, all Hart and the next coach needs to do is work with the kids. You do realize, for a college football program to excel, you need that connection to success that is the NFL, right? You can advertise academic excellence all you want to prospects, but if their view of success is working on Sunday then they really don't care about your academic excellence. It is a nice draw, but if you are trying to pull top talent to a non P5 school, that NFL connection and those visible bodies that they recognize on Sunday are even more important because that is your national impact. So our response to some disgruntled former players in the NFL is to bash and disconnect with them and rely solely on a punter?
Treadway21 wrote:June is was a cancer and so is his drunk agent. Thank The Lord he is gone.
We will be fine once this season is over.
So, you are saying we get a big time coach and staff and this group of players is going to succeed next season?!? Going to be 2-3 rough years before we really succeed, but if we do it right, we can maintain that and continue to grow.
Treadway21 wrote:Did I say we'd be good next season? Can you read?
How exactly do you define "fine" then? I assumed you defined it like others here who believe a new coach is going to turn the crap players into some sudden offensive juggernaut. If by fine you mean they might be able to tackle a elderly man in a hoverround, then I agree.
ReedFrawg wrote:This is when you need the AD to pick up the phone and call these guys. Call dickerson, beasley, etc and get them involved. Ask for their input and get them to be part of the solution. Thats what I would try anyway.
Please, we've heard this one before, no Thanks. Let's take the dumbest and most brainwashed of the entire Juneses cult and invite them in to 'help' the program? WTF
I say no negotiating with terrorists. Better to blow up their home with a drone!
And....amateur hour makes another appearance. It's hard to imbue success in an organization that defines failure. Luckily, all Hart and the next coach needs to do is work with the kids. You do realize, for a college football program to excel, you need that connection to success that is the NFL, right? You can advertise academic excellence all you want to prospects, but if their view of success is working on Sunday then they really don't care about your academic excellence. It is a nice draw, but if you are trying to pull top talent to a non P5 school, that NFL connection and those visible bodies that they recognize on Sunday are even more important because that is your national impact. So our response to some disgruntled former players in the NFL is to bash and disconnect with them and rely solely on a punter?
Oh, sorry Puckhead. Didn't know we needed political correctness on the Ponyfan message boards. I'm sure Hart will be working hard with the kids? (what)
Yeah, and all those NFL players and June's NFL 'connections' has really made a big difference to June Jones and his SMU recruiting. Not at all.
Bash and disconnect from those that bash and disconnect from the program? Yes, sounds about right.
Give Thanks and a shout out to a punter who wears the SMU colors visibly and proudly? Yes, even better.
Sure you aren't a full card carrying member of the Cult of June?
No, you're just a Puckhead who's probably never played a down of football (no, flag doesn't count) in his life.
Please, we've heard this one before, no Thanks. Let's take the dumbest and most brainwashed of the entire Juneses cult and invite them in to 'help' the program? WTF
I say no negotiating with terrorists. Better to blow up their home with a drone![/quote]
And....amateur hour makes another appearance. It's hard to imbue success in an organization that defines failure. Luckily, all Hart and the next coach needs to do is work with the kids. You do realize, for a college football program to excel, you need that connection to success that is the NFL, right? You can advertise academic excellence all you want to prospects, but if their view of success is working on Sunday then they really don't care about your academic excellence. It is a nice draw, but if you are trying to pull top talent to a non P5 school, that NFL connection and those visible bodies that they recognize on Sunday are even more important because that is your national impact. So our response to some disgruntled former players in the NFL is to bash and disconnect with them and rely solely on a punter?[/quote]
Oh, sorry Puckhead. Didn't know we needed political correctness on the Ponyfan message boards. I'm sure Hart will be working hard with the kids? (what)
Yeah, and all those NFL players and June's NFL 'connections' has really made a big difference to June Jones and his SMU recruiting. Not at all.
Bash and disconnect from those that bash and disconnect from the program? Yes, sounds about right.
Give Thanks and a shout out to a punter who wears the SMU colors visibly and proudly? Yes, even better.
Sure you aren't a full card carrying member of the Cult of June?[/quote]
What PC are you talking about? You would have to have a program to recruit anyone of merit outside of a few statistical outliers that choose the program, and you would have to recruit to begin with. Jones ran it into the ground, back to where it was before he got it and then some. Your continued "cult of Jones" calls almost makes me think you know someone who even the feckless Jones thought had too little talent to play at SMU. And for NFL players to have an impact on recruiting, you would have to recruit wouldn't you? Since it is accepted as fact that one of the hundreds of failures under Jones was recruiting, well, there you go. I liked the success but was never a big Jones fan...overt support of him implied acceptance that SMU would never be a big program because his whole system was based on getting more out of less and the system being supreme, not using the players talent and growing the system. I'm really starting to think many throwing the "cult of Jones" curse around are actually just angry at themselves for supporting him and not seeing that he was part of Turners plan to spend just enough of the boosters money to keep people quiet without actually having to make a stand to make the program actually good.
suffice it to say that SMU's next coach has a very challenging task ahead; will have to heal a lot of wounds as he rebuilds this program. I sincerely hope the SMU community will someday support the football program and pack Ford no matter who we are playing
Just thinking out loud here Cole and Tank -- you are not going to make enough money in your NFL career to live comfortably for the rest of your life. The JJ assistant coach gravy train was jumped the tracks. The SMU alumni network is alive and well. The person behind the desk you are asking for a job may take a dim view of you disparaging their SMU degree.