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Re: devil's advocate

Postby smupony94 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:20 am

June_bug_what_happened?
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby CalallenStang » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:23 am

smupony94 wrote:June_bug_what_happened?


His spacebar and caps lock keys were the same size so he moves the caps lock key to fit where the spacebar once was
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby couch 'em » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:23 am

The Hawaii people warned us about delaura when June came
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby footballdad » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:33 am

Think we had at least 2 guys in this last class with 4.3 speed if I'm not mistaken. Confident the new staff will figure out the best 22 players and get them on the field.

One of the big problems with the current bunch of bozos is evaluating talent. It is currently about playing favorites, not the best players. Just like June has assembled his laughable staff.

2 perfect examples, the kick returners and the RB's. #27 was by far our best kick returner but Phillips kept trying to rotate his little 5'8" slot guys in there to give them a chance. Result, nearly every time they touched it we'd start inside the 10. When 27 returned it we'd start at the 20-25.

Anybody else not think Luke Seeker should get more of an opportunity? Pope has been very disappointing, Line can get the short yardage when needed, but Seeker comes in and shows some burst and rattles off multiple 5-8 yard carries. Have been told multiple times that Seeker is arguably the best RB in practice when he gets the opportunity, as well as one of the hardest workers on the team. Why is he mired deep on the bench? Guess we'll find out next year, but I think the staff is again a big part of the problem with their evaluations and cronyism.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby mrydel » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:37 am

Seeker may be the best, I do not know. But I do know that late in the game with a 56 point lead, 2nd and 3rd team defense, and the defense expecting pass, that running becomes much more effective.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby sbsmith » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:40 am

couch 'em wrote:The Hawaii people warned us about delaura when June came



The Hawaii people warned us about June's disdain for recruiting as well.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:40 am

Since they burned Sutton's redshirt you would think that they would play him more.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Treadway21 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:49 am

sbsmith wrote:
couch 'em wrote:The Hawaii people warned us about delaura when June came



The Hawaii people warned us about June's disdain for recruiting as well.

This is true and. Must say I bought into the he doesn't recruit cause he has no budget and it's too expense to recruit the mainland. I feel bad to get duped.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Hoop Fan » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:58 am

would like to see some Seeker too. Move Pope back to Defense where he is much more valuable. I think you guys are hitting on something with the S&C questions. Our players are not developing explosiveness it doesn't look like. the right S&C program can do wonders, the wrong one is lethal these days and can lead to alot of injuries.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby fifty » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:19 pm

Seeker looks significantly faster than any of our other backs.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Treadway21 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:23 pm

Pope needs to go back to defense. He is not significantly better than the RBs we have and he would help the defense. Plus it would be different if running was more important in the offense. He is a play maker on defense.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby SMU404 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:50 pm

Grant Carter wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote:
Stallion wrote:I think its pretty obvious that the Strength and Condition program is an absolute bust. Even if they were lightly recruited you still shouldn't be physically dominated like this. I think when we saw about 5 guys INCLUDING A 3RD YEAR STARTER come in at the wrong weight then you got to ask yourself what were they doing in the offseason. What is even more a joke is when Coaches are surprised when a starting DE comes in at a LB weight. Who was in charge-who was supervising the players. Nobody was home. Head Coach and his staff had checked out early



Interestingly enough I have a story.. I used to train under a strength and conditioning coach who interned at smu in 08/09 and then at tcu the following season. He told me that the s&c coach for smu (I don't know if it's the same guy) was one of June's buddies who needed a job and didn't really know anything..he used a lot of body building techniques as opposed to athletic development ones. Apparently every time he left the room all of the other interns would try not to lose it because this guy was so clueless. He then went to tcu where he said he saw how a s&c program should be run. He actually said that the incoming athletes at smu were actually ahead of a good number of the incoming tcu players, but tcu just did an astronomically better job of development

The strength and conditioning coach in 2008-2009 was Vic Viloria who is now the strength and conditioning coach for Florida State. Seems like he might be pretty good, but I am sure you buddy knows more than him..

As you mentioned it is not the same guy now, but also Vic was not a june buddy who needed a job to my knowledge. He was a former smu player who had worked at LSU previously. It seems like your buddy might be confused about when he interned at smu.


He's obviously referring to Mel DeLaura...
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Grant Carter » Sun Sep 28, 2014 1:21 pm

SMU404 wrote:
Grant Carter wrote:
vielsiehorsepower wrote:[quote="Stallion"]I think its pretty obvious that the Strength and Condition program is an absolute bust. Even if they were lightly recruited you still shouldn't be physically dominated like this. I think when we saw about 5 guys INCLUDING A 3RD YEAR STARTER come in at the wrong weight then you got to ask yourself what were they doing in the offseason. What is even more a joke is when Coaches are surprised when a starting DE comes in at a LB weight. Who was in charge-who was supervising the players. Nobody was home. Head Coach and his staff had checked out early



Interestingly enough I have a story.. I used to train under a strength and conditioning coach who interned at smu in 08/09 and then at tcu the following season. He told me that the s&c coach for smu (I don't know if it's the same guy) was one of June's buddies who needed a job and didn't really know anything..he used a lot of body building techniques as opposed to athletic development ones. Apparently every time he left the room all of the other interns would try not to lose it because this guy was so clueless. He then went to tcu where he said he saw how a s&c program should be run. He actually said that the incoming athletes at smu were actually ahead of a good number of the incoming tcu players, but tcu just did an astronomically better job of development

The strength and conditioning coach in 2008-2009 was Vic Viloria who is now the strength and conditioning coach for Florida State. Seems like he might be pretty good, but I am sure you buddy knows more than him..

As you mentioned it is not the same guy now, but also Vic was not a june buddy who needed a job to my knowledge. He was a former smu player who had worked at LSU previously. It seems like your buddy might be confused about when he interned at smu.


He's obviously referring to Mel DeLaura...[/quote]
That is why I said his buddy must be confused about when he interned at SMU since Mel was not here in 2008-2009.
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby vielsiehorsepower » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:35 pm

CalallenStang wrote:vielsiehorsepower - "Much the horsepower?" Your name confuses me



Glad you asked. I chose it by the pronunciation, rather than meaning of the words.


viel=feel
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Re: devil's advocate

Postby Stallion » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:38 pm

VSHP-funny
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