SMU "Intrigued" by Mack Brown

[Stallion]

He actually has an absolutely horrible recruiting record over the last 2 months of each recruiting season. Putrid. Some might suggest that Texas wasn't offering the inducements other SEC teams were down to the finish line. But almost every player he has signed has had 10-20-30 offers

[mrydel]

Old Mack or young coordinator. If either do their job they will be gone in 2 or 3 years. And that would be great for us.

[StallionsModelT]

If Mack Brown were to come to SMU it would be the closest thing to a Larry Brown-esque hire we could realistically make. The man is a coaching legend in the state of Texas and could assemble a staff of hungry, young assistants that will DESTROY the DFW area in recruiting in a way we haven't done post DP. I really don't get the Mack Brown detractors. We have to realize what this program is right now. No one is coming here that doesn't have a few warts whether that be too young, too old, flamed out somewhere else. no HC experience, etc..... SMU is a Top 50 job but its not a Top 20 job and some of you are acting like it is.

Mack Brown is right behind Chad Morris for me. At least we will engage the community and the Dallas high school recruiting scene in a way we have never come close to trying in the past. That alone is worth 4 or 5 wins in the American.

[smupony94]

He actually has an absolutely horrible recruiting record over the last 2 months of each recruiting season. Putrid. Some might suggest that Texas wasn't offering the inducements other SEC teams were down to the finish line. But almost every player he has signed has had 10-20-30 offers

Yeah but he'd be recruiting against Tulane Tulsa and Houston not A&M Oklahoma and LSU

[RebStang]

He actually has an absolutely horrible recruiting record over the last 2 months of each recruiting season. Putrid. Some might suggest that Texas wasn't offering the inducements other SEC teams were. But almost every player he has signed has had 10-20-30 offers

That's where my question comes from. The one thing I always noticed about his recruiting classes is that they always seemed to be pretty much full by around July or August. Over here in SEC-land, when a kid commits that early it's usually because he was waiting on the offer from his favorite school.

There always seemed to be a lot of highly rated "low hanging fruit" in Texas that had dozens of offers but only really wanted to play for Texas. These are kids that would sign with Texas if I were the head coach there and decided to run the Oopty-Oop offense and a 2-5-4 defense.

[Rebel10]

He actually has an absolutely horrible recruiting record over the last 2 months of each recruiting season. Putrid. Some might suggest that Texas wasn't offering the inducements other SEC teams were down to the finish line. But almost every player he has signed has had 10-20-30 offers

Yeah but he'd be recruiting against Tulane Tulsa and Houston not A&M Oklahoma and LSU

So are you saying that we still would not be getting recruits with BCS offers with Brown either?

[Grant Carter]

Strong is doing the right thing. Get rid of the non law abiding street gangsters that Mack was well know for recruiting and start over. Every year you heard about UT kids getting in trouble with the law. I know you went to UT and are a Mack lover but the truth is the truth. Players could do what they wanted to when Mack was there spin it how you like.

I always appreciate the way you identify the hidden motivations of posters.

It is in strong's interest to make it seem like he inherited a bunch of bad apples, so I would not take everything happening there at face value necessarily.

[smupony94]

Haha

[Rebel10]

Strong is doing the right thing. Get rid of the non law abiding street gangsters that Mack was well know for recruiting and start over. Every year you heard about UT kids getting in trouble with the law. I know you went to UT and are a Mack lover but the truth is the truth. Players could do what they wanted to when Mack was there spin it how you like.

I always appreciate the way you identify the hidden motivations of posters.

It is in strong's interest to make it seem like he inherited a bunch of bad apples, so I would not take everything happening there at face value necessarily.

So now you are identifying a the hidden motivate. Love it

[jimhagle]

He's a huge name and he has won on a big stage under immense pressure[unlike JJ ever did-Hawaii is not a big stage] and yes, he like almost every coach in the country has some issues. However, he would put butts in the seats and recruit like no one else we have ever had except Meyer in well over a half century of SMU football. That being said I would roll the dice on him if it comes down to that. 2 Browns leading us back from the depths of despair who'd a thought.

[Stallion]

UTs problem is that UT created this an early commitment monster at Texas. They would have Senior Camp No. 1 the first week of March and another one 2 weeks later. Only about 25 players would invited to each camp IN A STATE WITH 350 SIGNEES. It worked great when they got 20 commitments from their Top 50 recruits. But then every Big 12 school started undercutting them so now recruiting commitment season starts 6 months earlier. Recruits started feeling insulted if they were not in the "First 25" and that was before they had every played a down as a Senior. Other schools would argue Texas doesn't want you because they didn't invite you. That's how you miss a Johnny Manziel and a RG111 and a Jamases Winston and all the other stud QBs because nobody considered any of those guys a Texas Top 25 or 50.

[Grant Carter]

Strong is doing the right thing. Get rid of the non law abiding street gangsters that Mack was well know for recruiting and start over. Every year you heard about UT kids getting in trouble with the law. I know you went to UT and are a Mack lover but the truth is the truth. Players could do what they wanted to when Mack was there spin it how you like.

I always appreciate the way you identify the hidden motivations of posters.

It is in strong's interest to make it seem like he inherited a bunch of bad apples, so I would not take everything happening there at face value necessarily.

So now you are identifying a the hidden motivate. Love it

Strong is a public figure who we are debating, you are always able to divine random posters' secret motivations. It is greatly appreciated.

[Rebel10]

Nah Grant, you are just being a jerk but that's just you. I was talking about Strong and so were you but somehow you can't admit to doing the same thing you accused me of doing.

[ericdickerson4life]

If Mack Brown were to come to SMU it would be the closest thing to a Larry Brown-esque hire we could realistically make. The man is a coaching legend in the state of Texas and could assemble a staff of hungry, young assistants that will DESTROY the DFW area in recruiting in a way we haven't done post DP. I really don't get the Mack Brown detractors. We have to realize what this program is right now. No one is coming here that doesn't have a few warts whether that be too young, too old, flamed out somewhere else. no HC experience, etc..... SMU is a Top 50 job but its not a Top 20 job and some of you are acting like it is.

Mack Brown is right behind Chad Morris for me. At least we will engage the community and the Dallas high school recruiting scene in a way we have never come close to trying in the past. That alone is worth 4 or 5 wins in the American.

If I was any smarter I would have said exactly this. I honestly don't think we have a shot at him. Nor do we really have a shot a Chad Morris. We think this job is better than what most would. When we start seeing big jobs open up we will see where we stand. There are probably going to be a whole lot better short term gigs for the up and coming coordinators to take, where they can be successful from the get go, not have to build for a couple of years. Not too mention, no matter our viewpoint, this job looks like a coach killer to outsiders.

[Rebel10]

If Mack Brown were to come to SMU it would be the closest thing to a Larry Brown-esque hire we could realistically make. The man is a coaching legend in the state of Texas and could assemble a staff of hungry, young assistants that will DESTROY the DFW area in recruiting in a way we haven't done post DP. I really don't get the Mack Brown detractors. We have to realize what this program is right now. No one is coming here that doesn't have a few warts whether that be too young, too old, flamed out somewhere else. no HC experience, etc..... SMU is a Top 50 job but its not a Top 20 job and some of you are acting like it is.

Mack Brown is right behind Chad Morris for me. At least we will engage the community and the Dallas high school recruiting scene in a way we have never come close to trying in the past. That alone is worth 4 or 5 wins in the American.

If I was any smarter I would have said exactly this. I honestly don't think we have a shot at him. Nor do we really have a shot a Chad Morris. We think this job is better than what most would. When we start seeing big jobs open up we will see where we stand. There are probably going to be a whole lot better short term gigs for the up and coming coordinators to take, where they can be successful from the get go, not have to build for a couple of years. Not too mention, no matter our viewpoint, this job looks like a coach killer to outsiders.

Okay, name a few jobs that you think might open up with the characteristics that you described?