Ranking the non-BCS coaches

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Re: Ranking the non-BCS coaches

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Samurai Stang wrote:Shhhhh 'til December
We will see you on the seventh.[/quote]

Maybe we could have a game in jap land- perhaps Hiroshima or Nagasaki. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guess we wouldn't have to do much to make the fields green.
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redpony wrote:
Samurai Stang wrote:Shhhhh 'til December
We will see you on the seventh.


Maybe we could have a game in jap land- perhaps Hiroshima or Nagasaki. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guess we wouldn't have to do much to make the fields green.[/quote]








Ummm, I guess the word hasn't traveled to Texas yet but they are called Japan. :shock:
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redpony wrote:
Samurai Stang wrote:Shhhhh 'til December
We will see you on the seventh.


Maybe we could have a game in jap land- perhaps Hiroshima or Nagasaki. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guess we wouldn't have to do much to make the fields green.[/quote]

Wow a bigoted remark like that and our own Samurai Stang is Japanese.
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Re: Ranking the non-BCS coaches

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and he consistently makes remarks like the Dec. 7th remark.
No, I'm not a biggot but I am an American who resents comments like he makes. Some of my family were killed in WWII and I don't forget that. Long live the USA.
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Re: Ranking the non-BCS coaches

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Warbow wrote:
peruna81 wrote:My junior high girlfriend left me for a guy with a car...still devastated all these years later...


It is a tough world. Hawaii had the chance to keep a coach that had taken them to the stratosphere of college football, and CHOSE not to do the things ( new practice facility, compensation for assistants, recruiting budget that reflected their place in NCAA football ) that would demonstrate a desire to have him on the sideline in the fall of 2008. You may want to question JJ character now, but the words echo fairly hollow when those in the UH community would not deliver.

You may be right. JJ may be a failure at SMU...though his track record would indicate otherwise. But I am going to love watching the possibilities from Ford stadium this fall. Hopefully when he rights this ship we will be wise enough to 'pony-up' whatever is necessary to keep him here a long, long time.


It wasn't the conditions at Hawaii that drove JJ away, it was the money. He worked under the same conditions for nearly 10 years. Only until someone else came up with the money did he publicly mention them. He played his cards right until the very day he signed with SMU, he was going to the highest bidder no matter what he said the conditions were like. In fact, he used Hawaii's last minute attempt to re-sign him to get about 300k more from SMU.

The sad part about this deal for SMU is, he left the main reason for his success at Hawaii and couldn't deliever Coach Mac as his Defensive Coordinator for SMU. The only two times he won the WAC (out of 9 years) he had Coach Mac as his Defensive Coordinator.

I really don't know about any track record you speak of, seems to me, he was a failure at everywhere he's been at except Hawaii. Exactly what did he do at Atlanta and San Diego that could be considered a success? Every coach he coached under as an assistant has gotten fired. Great track record.


Wow, Warbow was right all along. Weren't our bowl years because the defense stepped it up and we had Margus in there?
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Margus was good for at least a win or two during those years, especially the 2009 season. Without him JJ might have been fired in 2011 with or without the ASU debacle.

So in other words, this is all Margus's fault!
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Our success was due mainly to defense. Our offense had been generally on par with the Rusty Burns offenses under Bennett with Willis. Mason has far outperformed Bennett on D
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I wonder if Orsini ever even asked June any questions during their "interview?" There's obviously blame for everybody, but shouldn't the AD be prepared to at least accidentally ask a question or two as to how Coach X intends to build a successful program in Dallas?
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As time has passed it's increasingly clear that Orsini was a terrible AD. His results were marginally better than Copeland overall (all sports, not just football) and put us far deeper in the red.
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Re: Ranking the non-BCS coaches

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I think people are misremembering margus hunt. Loved the guy and all field goals were exciting but I don't think he had the consistent impact that other guys like jagared and tank reed had
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