Is the team punishing the fans?

[sbsmith]

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold.

Something tells me he didn't want his kid to come here.

[East Coast Mustang]

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold.

Something tells me he didn't want his kid to come here.

It must suck having your son get a free ride to SMU

[StallionsModelT]

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold.

Something tells me he didn't want his kid to come here.

Yeah I certainly get that impression as well.

[footballdad]

We can share a laugh about how these posters suck and have quit on their team and university.

fbdad- not sure how to exactly read your comments. IMO you are blaming the posters on pf for not having a winning team? Posters who have quit on their team? Posters who have created the schitt- show as you call it. Really? Most of the posters here are long time, hard core fans. Yes, they expect to have a fball team that will show up and represent the school in a quality manner. A team that will give 110% in an effort to win the game. I am not sure that effort has been there so far this season.

I feel sorry for the players as they had a lazy, inept coach who was only interested in getting his big check. A coach who desired to create an 'us against them' atmosphere instead of the 'all for one' atmosphere created by our bball coach. When he realized the money would soon end he turned tail and abandoned them. However, IMO the players still have an obligation to do their best- if not for their school at least for their teammates and themselves.

Like you, I look forward to a new coach who will start rebuilding this program. I hope the players realize that every time they take the field they are auditioning for a new coach who will be analyzing their performance and deciding which players he will continue with.
Let's all hope this team can come together and show us some 'inspired performances'.

You know exactly the posters I describe. I think Mr. Wood's comments summarize the feelings of 99% of us in Sec. 103. Apparently it's circle the wagons time.

I am in no way blaming idiotic posters on this board for not having a winning team. Most seem to truly want what's best for the players and the program. 50 things have gone wrong during the past 5 years that have led us to our current predicament. Take your pick. Better to keep the vitriol to a respectable level. Criticize till your hearts content but expect some push back when you start personally disparaging players and calling them quitters.

[StallionsModelT]

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold.

Something tells me he didn't want his kid to come here.

It must suck having your son get a free ride to SMU

No kidding. Try coming from a lower middle class family with two public school teachers for parents in extremely rural East Texas and going to SMU. I worked two on-campus jobs and combined with my scholarships and financial aid walked out of SMU debt free. It wasn't easy and nothing was given to me but I did it because I genuinely love the school. Looking back, I wouldn't change anything about it. Yeah there were kids who came from privilege and kids who had fancy cars. Guess what? That's college. You interact with people from outside your sphere of influence and comfort zone. SMU is an incredible institution that will literally bend over backwards to help its students and graduates. If you don't want to be here.....let me be the first to say GTFO and never come back.

[StallionsModelT]

We can share a laugh about how these posters suck and have quit on their team and university.

fbdad- not sure how to exactly read your comments. IMO you are blaming the posters on pf for not having a winning team? Posters who have quit on their team? Posters who have created the schitt- show as you call it. Really? Most of the posters here are long time, hard core fans. Yes, they expect to have a fball team that will show up and represent the school in a quality manner. A team that will give 110% in an effort to win the game. I am not sure that effort has been there so far this season.

I feel sorry for the players as they had a lazy, inept coach who was only interested in getting his big check. A coach who desired to create an 'us against them' atmosphere instead of the 'all for one' atmosphere created by our bball coach. When he realized the money would soon end he turned tail and abandoned them. However, IMO the players still have an obligation to do their best- if not for their school at least for their teammates and themselves.

Like you, I look forward to a new coach who will start rebuilding this program. I hope the players realize that every time they take the field they are auditioning for a new coach who will be analyzing their performance and deciding which players he will continue with.
Let's all hope this team can come together and show us some 'inspired performances'.

You know exactly the posters I describe. I think Mr. Wood's comments summarize the feelings of 99% of us in Sec. 103. Apparently it's circle the wagons time.

I am in no way blaming idiotic posters on this board for not having a winning team. Most seem to truly want what's best for the players and the program. 50 things have gone wrong during the past 5 years that have led us to our current predicament. Take your pick. Better to keep the vitriol to a respectable level. Criticize till your hearts content but expect some push back when you start personally disparaging players and calling them quitters.

Good grief. I bet you were a ball at the local PTA meetings. Go to message boards of big boy programs and see some of poisonous filth that is spewed there about players every single day. No one is saying these kids are bad eggs or that they've done some great injustice to humanity. Those of us who are sick of watching this garbage have sat through winless seasons and seasons of 2 or 3 wins where the effort was infinitely better than what we've seen this year. No one has even singled out any particular player for said lack of effort. You've got a beef? I understand that. We've said over and over and over again that the head of this snake is June and the rest is collateral damage. Those of us who've had an account on here for more than five minutes know the drill.

[SMUer]

The fact that you are such-and-such's dad doesn't change the fact that I can find "SMU" at the bottom 5 of almost every major offensive and defensive category. How would you describe this team? I would n't say "suck" but any adjective you want then "bad" seems pretty fair to me.

[footballdad]

SMU and these critics should be thankful they even have enough players to field a team when these players have to deal with this sh*t show on a daily basis.

It's a shame someone put a gun to your son's head and forced him to attend SMU (presumably for free on an athletic scholarship) if he and/or you hate it so much. How do you expect fans to act when a team is 0-6 and the absolute worst program in FBS?

Those of here that are complaining actually give a rip about the football program and its future - most alumni just socialize on the Boulevard, run off to Mi Cocina during the game, and couldn't tell you the final score or even who our opponent was.

Let's all just hope someone in a position of authority at SMU finally makes a competent decision when it comes to the future of the football program.

[sbsmith]

It must suck having your son get a free ride to SMU

It would suck if you thought your son could do better.

[footballdad]

LOL. I've missed a grand total of two home games since 2001. I've donated over $10K to the Mustang Club since graduation in 2006, owned basketball season tickets, traveled to watch us play and get beat in such lovely destinations as Pullman, Washington. I've seen bad football teams. I know when a team has quit. I don't think anyone here is putting all the blame on the players. Clearly when your coach quits on you two games into the season that is going to have an impact on impressionable kids who committed to play for said coach.

You can't throw a blanket statement over the entire team. When helicopterdad and I first had this discussion weeks ago I singled out several kids who fought until the bitter end. Zach Wood was one of them. Kid was giving relentless effort every friggin' play and he absolutely emptied the tank out there for his team. Krstich, Pope, Lasecki, Stephon Sanders.... We have some kids who would play in front of an empty stadium with nothing to play for and leave it all out there. We've got some warriors.

That said, the disease and poison of June Jones has impacted this program in ways that go beyond recruiting and x's and o's. We've had SMU teams that I was proud to watch fight and claw their way to 3 or 4 wins because that's all they had in them. This team? Not a lot of stomach for the fight when things don't go their way early.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of the fault lies with June Jones. The next coach will watch these games and see just how much he's going to have to root out the lack of passion and effort in order to have a winning program.

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold. We better hope that kids want to come here under the illusion that SMU is an elite institution? We attract better prospective students than any school in the state outside of Rice and its not even close. SMU, as an institution will continue to rise through the academic ranks regardless of our football program. Thankfully, you won't be around this forum long and you'll fade into obscurity. But continue to throw rocks at one of the top 50 universities in the country.

Save it pal. Hilarious kid with your mind reading proclamations and psychic insight into exactly which players try and which players quit (in your almighty opinion). Could it be your higher-than-thou smugness and name calling that lit Mr. Wood's fuse?

So your feelings being hurt about the recent drop in your business school rankings is my axe to grind? Get over it.

[redpony]

I suspect that if most of these players would have had offers to schools much better than SMU that they would have gone there. IIRC there were not many players who had offers to major BCS schools that we won. Not really a reflection on our players but on our coach who refused to recruit top level players.

[StallionsModelT]

LOL. I've missed a grand total of two home games since 2001. I've donated over $10K to the Mustang Club since graduation in 2006, owned basketball season tickets, traveled to watch us play and get beat in such lovely destinations as Pullman, Washington. I've seen bad football teams. I know when a team has quit. I don't think anyone here is putting all the blame on the players. Clearly when your coach quits on you two games into the season that is going to have an impact on impressionable kids who committed to play for said coach.

You can't throw a blanket statement over the entire team. When helicopterdad and I first had this discussion weeks ago I singled out several kids who fought until the bitter end. Zach Wood was one of them. Kid was giving relentless effort every friggin' play and he absolutely emptied the tank out there for his team. Krstich, Pope, Lasecki, Stephon Sanders.... We have some kids who would play in front of an empty stadium with nothing to play for and leave it all out there. We've got some warriors.

That said, the disease and poison of June Jones has impacted this program in ways that go beyond recruiting and x's and o's. We've had SMU teams that I was proud to watch fight and claw their way to 3 or 4 wins because that's all they had in them. This team? Not a lot of stomach for the fight when things don't go their way early.

The fact of the matter is that the majority of the fault lies with June Jones. The next coach will watch these games and see just how much he's going to have to root out the lack of passion and effort in order to have a winning program.

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold. We better hope that kids want to come here under the illusion that SMU is an elite institution? We attract better prospective students than any school in the state outside of Rice and its not even close. SMU, as an institution will continue to rise through the academic ranks regardless of our football program. Thankfully, you won't be around this forum long and you'll fade into obscurity. But continue to throw rocks at one of the top 50 universities in the country.

Save it pal. Hilarious kid with your mind reading proclamations and psychic insight into exactly which players try and which players quit (in your almighty opinion). Could it be your higher-than-thou smugness and name calling that lit Mr. Wood's fuse?

So your feelings being hurt about the recent drop in your business school rankings is my axe to grind? Get over it.

Lol. If I had "pals" like you helicopter I'd gladly take a nice little cyanide inspired dirt nap. Your bit, while amusing, is nothing new. Sorry your son had to settle for the second best school in the state.

[footballdad]

[quote="StallionsModelT"][quote="East Coast Mustang"][quote="sbsmith"][quote="StallionsModelT"]

And to helicopter....dude you have an axe to grind that's truly sad to behold. [/quote]



Something tells me he didn't want his kid to come here.[/quote]
It must suck having your son get a free ride to SMU[/quote]

No kidding. Try coming from a lower middle class family with two public school teachers for parents in extremely rural East Texas and going to SMU. I worked two on-campus jobs and combined with my scholarships and financial aid walked out of SMU debt free. It wasn't easy and nothing was given to me but I did it because I genuinely love the school. Looking back, I wouldn't change anything about it. Yeah there were kids who came from privilege and kids who had fancy cars. Guess what? That's college. You interact with people from outside your sphere of influence and comfort zone. SMU is an incredible institution that will literally bend over backwards to help its students and graduates. If you don't want to be here.....let me be the first to say GTFO and never come back.[/quote]

It's Ok Stallion, now your jealousy and animosity toward those 'free ride' football players makes perfect sense. Poor baby from East Texas who could never make a varsity team takes pathetic pleasure in talking trash about the kids who remind him of those bad, bad football bullies who took his lunch money and gave him wedgies.

[East Coast Mustang]

It's Ok Stallion, now your jealousy and animosity toward those 'free ride' football players makes perfect sense. Poor baby from East Texas who could never make a varsity team takes pathetic pleasure in talking trash about the kids who remind him of those bad, bad football bullies who took his lunch money and gave him wedgies.

Gosh, you're really revealing your true colors in terms of ignorance, immaturity, and classlessness now.

If us saying that some of the players on the team now who either aren't talented enough or aren't working hard enough to be on an FBS roster need to go after this season when the new regime takes over gets you so riled up, that's a damning indictment of your son (whoever he may be).

Against my better judgment, I've been at every home SMU game this season (as well as the UNT game in Denton) to support our players, and I'll be at the game on Saturday. With that said, some of them aren't talented enough and/or aren't working hard enough to be here next year. That's just a fact when you're 0-6 and the worst program in FBS -- some guys have gotta go. Happens everywhere, and SMU will be no exception.

[AustinPerson]

I wonder if there's really a point in SMU fielding a division 1 football team and giving out 100 athletic scholarships. Maybe dump the football players and replace them with 50 academic scholarships? Maybe the univ of Chicago approach.