Cowlishaw: Mack to SMU would be a terrible move

[PonyKai]

This is tiresome. Look, if there are issues (and I don't think there are; Mr. Stallion has beaten that to death ad nauseum) could someone please, for heaven's sake, say what they are? Every single time it's this vague specter that can't be disproven of "higher standards," "support," and "academic restrictions." It's like listening to a political ad- they the other guy is the devil. When you ask for a reason, they say "because he is!"

[LA_Mustang]

This is tiresome. Look, if there are issues (and I don't think there are; Mr. Stallion has beaten that to death ad nauseum) could someone please, for heaven's sake, say what they are? Every single time it's this vague specter that can't be disproven of "higher standards," "support," and "academic restrictions." It's like listening to a political ad- they the other guy is the devil. When you ask for a reason, they say "because he is!"

I agree. Let him know @TimCowlishaw. I did.

[LA_Mustang]

“@BillyEmbody: I'd really like to see @SportsDayDFW cite specific examples of #SMU's academic restrictions. PLEASE. Cause it's getting ridiculous.”

[SMU 86]

Time will tell but I have a feeling that the next coach, whomever that may be, will prove the lazy media & JJ wrong.

Let's hope that the negative publicity about this issue does not hurt our coaching search.

[smoodtwice]

Tim Cowlishaw: "They would hire Mack Brown to make a splash and make news which is the exact wrong reason to do it. Mack wasn't getting top players his last four years at UT. There are far more restrictions academically on the players you can get at SMU". "SMU is not going to to give coaches the same opportunities to get players that other schools do".

So is this true or not?
Doesn't Stallion say we are on equal fields as far as academics for football players?

Then again, June did not recruit many of those blue chip players that would possibly need a little boost in getting admitted. June never tried, I remember him saying "we are not going to get the kids that OU, UT, A&M and Baylor get".

I seem to recall June (e.g., Klemm) trying for a couple that didn't ever play for us, but IIRC they never played for clearinghouse and minimum NCAA standards reasons and would not have been able to play anywhere.

[RGV Pony]

Look for another well written and we'll timed response by Hart before long

[Stallion]

Even June has admitted that admission is no longer the issue. Again there are possibility a few kids that score FAR below an 820 SAT (recentered from the old 700 SAT minimum) might not get into SMU-although someone got in last year with a 620 SAT which is 680 points below SMU's average. You've got to understand that over a decade ago they deemphasized the SAT/ACT making it basically a bottomless floor -if you could manufacture an unusually high GPA probably at a diploma mill you could qualify with a horrendous SAT/ACT under the sliding scale. This is likely how Keith Frazier was allowed in when everyone in the recruiting world thought he was a nonqualifier.

Its not worth worrying about anymore with regard to the Football Coaching search because the next recruiting class in 2016 has much stricter standards including mandatory freshman redshirt, an enhanced sliding scale and requiring 10 out 16 core courses to be completed before high school senior year which are then frozen and can not be "washed" from the transcript, 7 of these 10 core credits must be in English, Math and Science. The debate is over completely for the next SMU Head Coach

[SMU 86]

Even June has admitted that admission is no longer the issue. Again there are possibility a few kids that score FAR below an 820 SAT (recentered from the old 700 SAT minimum) might not get into SMU-although someone got in last year with a 620 SAT which is 680 points below SMU's average. You've got to understand that over a decade ago they deemphasized the SAT/ACT making it basically a bottomless floor -if you could manufacture an unusually high GPA probably at a diploma mill you could qualify with a horrendous SAT/ACT under the sliding scale. This is likely how Keith Frazier was allowed in when everyone in the recruiting world thought he was a nonqualifier.

Its not worth worrying about anymore with regard to the Football Coaching search because the next recruiting class in 2016 has much stricter standards including mandatory freshman redshirt, an enhanced sliding scale and requiring 10 out 16 core courses to be completed before high school senior year which are then frozen and can not be "washed" from the transcript, 7 of these 10 core credits must be in English, Math and Science. The debate is over completely for the next SMU Head Coach

The mandatory redshirt has not been approved.

[Stallion]

Yes it has-its was approved 2 1/2 years ago with a 4 year window to allow high school students to adjust. Its on about a 1000 websites right now. Now its only mandatory for those not meeting the ENHANCED sliding scale ie kids with decent grades and SAT/ACT will be freshman eligible but a bunch won't. This is what is going to lead to kids going overseas in Basketball because many won't be eligible as freshman

"The minimum SAT score required to compete as a college freshman increased by 180 points while the minimum ACT score increased by an average of 14 points (sum score)."

http://www.clearinghousecalculator.org/ ... rseGPA.pdf

[SMU 86]

Yes it has-its was approved 2 1/2 years ago with a 4 year window to allow high school students to adjust. Its on about a 1000 websites right now. Now its only mandatory for those not meeting the ENHANCED sliding scale ie kids with decent grades and SAT/ACT will be freshman eligible but a bunch won't. This is what is going to lead to kids going overseas in Basketball because many won't be eligible as freshman

"The minimum SAT score required to compete as a college freshman increased by 180 points while the minimum ACT score increased by an average of 14 points (sum score)."

http://www.clearinghousecalculator.org/ ... rseGPA.pdf

I thought you were talking about the one where all freshman would have to sit out.

[Nacho]

fwiw cowlishaw comes to nearly all of our bball games. he is usually in the media section. he doesn't hate us.
most including the media checked out on football a long time ago.

[Digetydog]

fwiw cowlishaw comes to nearly all of our bball games. he is usually in the media section. he doesn't hate us.
most including the media checked out on football a long time ago.

I have a SMU buddy who know him very well. I get the feeling he wants SMU to do well.

While I disagree with him on Mack, his opinion is fair. It's not like he is the former DMN CFB writer - Maisel - who hated the SWC in general and SMU in particular.

[footballdad]

fwiw cowlishaw comes to nearly all of our bball games. he is usually in the media section. he doesn't hate us.
most including the media checked out on football a long time ago.

Hate is a strong word, I'm sure he doesn't hate us either. Incompetently reports random misinformation because he's too lazy to do any real research, is probably closer to the truth. If he loves the basketball program so much why can't he throw a bone to the football program? Spread a little positive information. I guess negative sells better than positive.

Dallas media checked out on SMU football a long time ago, with a college football team in their own city, in the most football crazed state in the country, I still don't understand this? The Star Telegram doesn't have any problem covering TCU.

Instead of these guys spreading misinformation, constantly taking shots at the program, and protecting a POS like June Jones, why is their rarely ever a positive story outlining all of the potential of the program and the school with the right coach & leadership?

Just seems there is a heavy negative bias here? Again, I guess negative generates more buzz, just the world we live in.

[mrydel]

Let them keep writing about it and everyone that has knowledge otherwise keep responding with the facts.

This is how the truth will finally come out. It used to be a journalist had to have good sources for their stories. Now they report as fact and if you do not deny, it becomes the truth. Just keep hammering like you are and soon the truth is going to come out.

This can be a very positive situation for us. If there are some academic issues of which we are not aware, bringing the bright light upon them will flush them out and hopefully they can be addressed positively. If, as we most agree their are no restrictions, that will be exposed and the issue can be dropped for good.

[West Coast Johnny]

When is this Mack Brown publicity stunt going to end?

FWIW - Texas' APR under Brown was good enough.