Worst-Case Scenario with the Football Program

[SoCal_Pony]

Given all that SMU fans have been through over the past 30 years, including 0 championships under Turner's watch, you'd think if he was truly committed to athletics now he would allow MK to play this year. It's good for MK, it's good business for an athletic department burning cash, it's a good faith gesture to LB and if we happen to make a deep run in the NCAA tourney, it's good for admissions.

And yet we have the situation we do.

Speaks volumes to me.

Only problem is what if Turner does want him to but a tenured Prof does not? I do not know any of that to be the case but this could be an instance where Turner could not help even if he wanted to could it not? But yes, I agree, if any way possible, you get the kid on the court now.

If a 20-year PRESIDENT of a university allows a professor to run roughshod over him, it doesn't speak highly of the President or his commitment to the dispute at hand.

At the end of the day, this is financially beneficial to the university and is accepted practice at tons of schools with equivalent or higher academics than us.

Once again, if MK was a thug who committed a felony, I would view this differently. He's not and he's actually going to earn a decent and well-deserved salary as a professional BB player.

[mrydel]

I do agree.

[78pony]

Think they'd find a way to get him on the court at Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, Michigan State, UConn, etc?

Irk Brown enough that he throws his hands up and retires and there goes the hoops program!

my biggest fear is we do something to irk Brown eventually. Yes.

Very legit concern.

[No Quarter]

The lack of an IPF was one of JJs complaints and some say it should be promised ICW the attempt to lure the next coach. I am curious. How many members of P5 conferences have IPFs? Or maybe the better way to answer the question would be to list those who do not. And how many games would it have helped JJ prepare for during his tenure?

[Big12Mustang]

The lack of an IPF was one of JJs complaints and some say it should be promised ICW the attempt to lure the next coach. I am curious. How many members of P5 conferences have IPFs? Or maybe the better way to answer the question would be to list those who do not. And how many games would it have helped JJ prepare for during his tenure?

AAC:

Have IPF:
Houston
Temple
UCF
UConn
Navy
Memphis - they have nice meeting rooms http://www.gotigersgo.com/facilities/football.html

Do not have:
ECU
SMU
Tulane - they use the Saint's IPF if available)
Tulsa - planning to build one http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/t ... dc5ba.html
Cincinnati - plans to build a bubble IPF
USF

ACC - Everyone except Miami (and I don't think they will ever need one) have an IPF or are currently building one. thttp://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/ ... r-facility

SEC - Florida is only team planning to build one soon, all other teams have one (even Vandy).

Big Ten - http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/i ... facilities

Big 12 - http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id ... es-by-team

Pac 12 - All have IPFs, Bubbles or plans to build one

MWC - all cold weather teams have one, except Nevada.

even Louisiana Lafayette has an ipf - http://www.ragincajuns.com/sports/2013/ ... spx?id=532

It looks like everyone on the AAC is on track to build IPF's, did we confirm that we are building one already?

[redpony]

It looks like everyone on the AAC is on track to build IPF's, did we confirm that we are building one already?

Lots of 'lip service' but no action and not sure there are any immediate plans to do so.

[mrydel]

How many teams that have IPFs began to prosper only after getting one? It will not make us better.

If having plans to build one and a time table to do so would help in acquiring a better coach then so be it. But it is not necessary to be a good team, especially in the south. TCU built their program just fine without one.

[Big12Mustang]

How many teams that have IPFs began to prosper only after getting one? It will not make us better.

If having plans to build one and a time table to do so would help in acquiring a better coach then so be it. But it is not necessary to be a good team, especially in the south. TCU built their program just fine without one.

TCU has had a pretty nice IPF since 2006. And their football facilities are in the top of the big 12 now that they renovated the Carter.

I know it is not going to "make us better" but it will make us look serious to potential coaches, recruits and the Dallas community, which thinks we have a football program just because...

[footballdad]

The lack of an IPF was one of JJs complaints and some say it should be promised ICW the attempt to lure the next coach. I am curious. How many members of P5 conferences have IPFs? Or maybe the better way to answer the question would be to list those who do not. And how many games would it have helped JJ prepare for during his tenure?

It's simply an extra feather in the cap for new coach when recruiting, no effect on wins or losses, chump change to SMU, just build the thing!

Every other building on campus is nearly new or undergoing renovation, add it to the plan and get it done, what's the problem?

[bobcat68]

Even Highland Park high school has an IPF

[GiddyUp]

Even Highland Park high school has an IPF

as does most HS around the area. Pretty ridiculous we don't. Maybe they can practice inside the indoor tennis courts

[CA Mustang]

If a 20-year PRESIDENT of a university allows a professor to run roughshod over him, it doesn't speak highly of the President or his commitment to the dispute at hand.

So you are advocating that the university president should step in and overrule a professor (or two) to ensure select athletes remain eligible (regardless of the facts of the situation)? Wow...

... is accepted practice at tons of schools with equivalent or higher academics than us.

Please provide examples where university presidents unilaterally changed grades to ensure the eligibility of athletes.

How many teams that have IPFs began to prosper only after getting one? It will not make us better.

If having plans to build one and a time table to do so would help in acquiring a better coach then so be it. But it is not necessary to be a good team, especially in the south. TCU built their program just fine without one.

My point exactly. An IPF isn't the cure-all many hold it out to be.

[footballdad]

If a 20-year PRESIDENT of a university allows a professor to run roughshod over him, it doesn't speak highly of the President or his commitment to the dispute at hand.

So you are advocating that the university president should step in and overrule a professor (or two) to ensure select athletes remain eligible (regardless of the facts of the situation)? Wow...

... is accepted practice at tons of schools with equivalent or higher academics than us.

Please provide examples where university presidents unilaterally changed grades to ensure the eligibility of athletes.

How many teams that have IPFs began to prosper only after getting one? It will not make us better.

If having plans to build one and a time table to do so would help in acquiring a better coach then so be it. But it is not necessary to be a good team, especially in the south. TCU built their program just fine without one.

My point exactly. An IPF isn't the cure-all many hold it out to be.

Wanna play with the big boys and keep Larry happy.....Just get it done!

Never heard a single person on this board describe an IPF as a cure-all.....Just get it done!

[fifty]

We have a slanted OPF. Isn't that good enough?

[Puckhead48E]

Getting an IPF is not the answer, but that isn't the main issue. The act of funding, planning, and building the IPF and the statement that makes about administration support for the program is the most important aspect of an IPF. The statement, and the potential of increased upside, tell the story that SMU needs to tell; we are actually serious about this.