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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:15 pm

Big12Mustang wrote:blackout did point out a fact. I have to agree with him on that.


What 'fact'? His favorite tact is to say this guy or that guy or this team 'sucks' or 'sucked'. How is that a fact? That is his negative 'opinion', nothing more.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:20 pm

footballdad wrote:You are so clueless. In only 1 complete game, he showed us more than Krstich, Cassel & Burcham combined. While running an antiquated offense that doesn't even fit his skill set. Please dispute this?

Hopefully Herman or Morris gets the chance to work with him since their schemes seem to fit his skill set pretty well. What we see of his passing and pocket presence in June's crap scheme is almost irrelevant to his future potential. Let's get some real coaches in here with a real scheme and I think the kid can be successful.

Word in the locker room is that he is a leader and has stayed positive throughout this whole ordeal. Another good sign as I'm sure this season and his role have unfolded 10x worse than he or his parents could have ever imagined when he chose SMU.




Actually I'm one of the few people that had a clue about the kid from the second he got here. He's been exactly what I thought he'd be (while a lot of other people thought he would save our season :lol:). So what if he "showed us more" than the other spare QBs on the roster, the new guy is going to bring in better competition than that and Davis doesn't have the best history when it comes to winning QB competitions. That is if the new guy even wants him to play QB. As for the rest of the season we don't have the good fortune of playing Tulsa again so let's see what he does against better defenses that have some film on him.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby blackoutpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:27 pm

footballdad wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:Blackoutpony joins Stallion to hurl constant criticism at arguably our single best individual performance of the year, and quite possibly our best sliver of hope for the future. :roll:

I think I've heard it here before. SMU loves to eat their own.



If Matt Davis is "our best sliver of hope for the future" then we're in worse shape than I thought.


You are so clueless. In only 1 complete game, he showed us more than Krstich, Cassel & Burcham combined. While running an antiquated offense that doesn't even fit his skill set. Please dispute this?


You seem to have reading comprehension issues. I never did and I don't intend to dispute that he had an ok/good game. Pull your head out of your [deleted] and stop looking for a fight everywhere you can with our fan base. For someone with so much hate for us, you seem to spend a lot of time here....

Remember how pumped everyone was on stich after a game awhile back? Yeah that didn't work out well. It's one game, against a terrible team. He is a tremendous athlete, the eye test tells me he is a below average passer, who's not accurate enough to win against good teams. Maybe that works well enough against bad teams and we win 3 games next year. Who knows...

I'm just pointing out that he's not some savior and that it was one freaking game. Keep it in Perspective.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby blackoutpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:29 pm

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Big12Mustang wrote:blackout did point out a fact. I have to agree with him on that.


What 'fact'? His favorite tact is to say this guy or that guy or this team 'sucks' or 'sucked'. How is that a fact? That is his negative 'opinion', nothing more.


That he wasn't even the starter on his own Juco team. Reading comprehension is a helpful tool you should look into developing.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby Arkpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:32 pm

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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:40 pm

sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:You are so clueless. In only 1 complete game, he showed us more than Krstich, Cassel & Burcham combined. While running an antiquated offense that doesn't even fit his skill set. Please dispute this?

Hopefully Herman or Morris gets the chance to work with him since their schemes seem to fit his skill set pretty well. What we see of his passing and pocket presence in June's crap scheme is almost irrelevant to his future potential. Let's get some real coaches in here with a real scheme and I think the kid can be successful.

Word in the locker room is that he is a leader and has stayed positive throughout this whole ordeal. Another good sign as I'm sure this season and his role have unfolded 10x worse than he or his parents could have ever imagined when he chose SMU.




Actually I'm one of the few people that had a clue about the kid from the second he got here. He's been exactly what I thought he'd be (while a lot of other people thought he would save our season :lol:). So what if he "showed us more" than the other spare QBs on the roster, the new guy is going to bring in better competition than that and Davis doesn't have the best history when it comes to winning QB competitions. That is if the new guy even wants him to play QB. As for the rest of the season we don't have the good fortune of playing Tulsa again so let's see what he does against better defenses that have some film on him.


And where does your genius insight about Matt Davis come from exactly? Actually most everyone who knows June Jones knew the kid was gonna get stuck on the bench behind June's 2 hand picked superstars, Burcham & Cassel. If the new staff does bring in better competition, hallelujah, let the best man win. To talk smack because he lost a competition to Johnny Manziel is laughable. They already tried to move him from QB to other positions at A&M when it was obvious Manziel was their guy and he transferred to SMU to play QB. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to switch to WR or DB, ain't gonna happen. As for the rest of the season, we may not win a game, and he may not light it up in June's run & sh*t offense, but he'll certainly make plays, turn sacks into 1st downs, and at least give us a chance to look competitive.

I'll take that in a heartbeat. You just keep criticizing.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:42 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
footballdad wrote:
Big12Mustang wrote:blackout did point out a fact. I have to agree with him on that.


What 'fact'? His favorite tact is to say this guy or that guy or this team 'sucks' or 'sucked'. How is that a fact? That is his negative 'opinion', nothing more.


That he wasn't even the starter on his own Juco team. Reading comprehension is a helpful tool you should look into developing.


Oh yes I forgot, you went to SMU (that with the outstanding academic rankings), so you are certainly smarter than most, and undoubtedly better at reading comprehension. :lol:
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby blackoutpony » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:54 pm

The amount of hate that you have for your sons school is pretty mind blowing. Why don't you just have him transfer if this is such an awful place? You seen to be enough of a helicopter dad to make it happen.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:59 pm

footballdad wrote:And where does your genius insight about Matt Davis come from exactly? Actually most everyone who knows June Jones knew the kid was gonna get stuck on the bench behind June's 2 hand picked superstars, Burcham & Cassel. If the new staff does bring in better competition, hallelujah, let the best man win. To talk smack because he lost a competition to Johnny Manziel is laughable. They already tried to move him from QB to other positions at A&M when it was obvious Manziel was their guy and he transferred to SMU to play QB. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to switch to WR or DB, ain't gonna happen. As for the rest of the season, we may not win a game, and he may not light it up in June's run & sh*t offense, but he'll certainly make plays, turn sacks into 1st downs, and at least give us a chance to look competitive.

I'll take that in a heartbeat. You just keep criticizing.



Doesn't take any genius insight to see what Matt Davis is, you just have to pay attention (something it seems you have trouble with). It was obvious to everyone but Davis that he was going to get stuck on the bench but he must have thought he was good enough to learn June's offense which shows a lack of self-awareness on his part. Not sure why you're bringing up Johnny Manziel because I certainly didn't. Davis couldn't win the job in JUCO versus some spare and he couldn't win the job here versus spares so it's not likely he's going to be the "best man" in the upcoming QB competition. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to be a superstar QB because it ain't gonna happen :lol:
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:16 pm

blackoutpony wrote:The amount of hate that you have for your sons school is pretty mind blowing. Why don't you just have him transfer if this is such an awful place? You seen to be enough of a helicopter dad to make it happen.


I think you've said the same thing 10 times now, followed by the usual name calling. Quite an old and tired argument. Relax young man.

I don't hate anything. I voice my opinion on an opinion board and make observations. Stay on point and diffuse the anger.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:18 pm

sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:And where does your genius insight about Matt Davis come from exactly? Actually most everyone who knows June Jones knew the kid was gonna get stuck on the bench behind June's 2 hand picked superstars, Burcham & Cassel. If the new staff does bring in better competition, hallelujah, let the best man win. To talk smack because he lost a competition to Johnny Manziel is laughable. They already tried to move him from QB to other positions at A&M when it was obvious Manziel was their guy and he transferred to SMU to play QB. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to switch to WR or DB, ain't gonna happen. As for the rest of the season, we may not win a game, and he may not light it up in June's run & sh*t offense, but he'll certainly make plays, turn sacks into 1st downs, and at least give us a chance to look competitive.

I'll take that in a heartbeat. You just keep criticizing.



Doesn't take any genius insight to see what Matt Davis is, you just have to pay attention (something it seems you have trouble with). It was obvious to everyone but Davis that he was going to get stuck on the bench but he must have thought he was good enough to learn June's offense which shows a lack of self-awareness on his part. Not sure why you're bringing up Johnny Manziel because I certainly didn't. Davis couldn't win the job in JUCO versus some spare and he couldn't win the job here versus spares so it's not likely he's going to be the "best man" in the upcoming QB competition. Stop trying to make yourself believe he's going to be a superstar QB because it ain't gonna happen :lol:


So you know nothing about Matt Davis, QB's, offenses, or football in general. Thanks for the clarification. 8)
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:33 pm

footballdad wrote:So you know nothing about Matt Davis, QB's, offenses, or football in general. Thanks for the clarification. 8)



Well I clearly know more than you do after all you're the one that's constantly making excuses for these spares when I had them all pegged from the start. But you go on thinking that a new coach will make them all superstars :lol:
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby footballdad » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:39 pm

sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:So you know nothing about Matt Davis, QB's, offenses, or football in general. Thanks for the clarification. 8)



Well I clearly know more than you do after all you're the one that's constantly making excuses for these spares when I had them all pegged from the start. But you go on thinking that a new coach will make them all superstars :lol:


This team sucks, these players suck, shut the program down, shut it down, we're a basketball school, we're an academic school, Grrrrrrr, you kids are hilarious.

Let me guess, you never played football in your life?
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby Digetydog » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:43 pm

footballdad wrote:
blackoutpony wrote:The amount of hate that you have for your sons school is pretty mind blowing. Why don't you just have him transfer if this is such an awful place? You seen to be enough of a helicopter dad to make it happen.


I think you've said the same thing 10 times now, followed by the usual name calling. Quite an old and tired argument. Relax young man.

I don't hate anything. I voice my opinion on an opinion board and make observations. Stay on point and diffuse the anger.


When I was a student, we had this tall, white stiff who couldn't hit the anything with a shot from two feet. He was horrible. Much to everyone's surprise, John Shumate took over and "fixed" him. His last year, he was first team All-SWC. He ended up playing professionally in Europe.

Is Davis ready? No. He has had 4 OC's in three years, he plays behind the worst OL in CFB history, and he got injured.

But with talent around him and an offense that fits his skills, he could be just fine. If not, we'll move on. Heck, we made it to a bowl game with McDermitt (who was injured) at QB.
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Re: Davis is a good spread option QB

Postby sbsmith » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:51 pm

footballdad wrote:
This team sucks, these players suck, shut the program down, shut it down, we're a basketball school, we're an academic school, Grrrrrrr, you kids are hilarious.

Let me guess, you never played football in your life?



Yeah I played but God knows I wasn't as good as you. You did score 4 TDs in a single game at Polk High right Mr. Bundy?


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With all your football wisdom I just don't get how you were so utterly wrong about this team. Dementia perhaps? Maybe you got this team confused with a better one from years ago.
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