Godfather on Turner-administration

[SMU2007]

A lot of vague comments. What is the truth here if you have all this inside knowledge?

[hoopmanx]

Basically, you are dealing w/an ultra slick Crum and a slowly modernizing admin. You are dealing w/certain staffers that were brought here to snipe on a blueblood level, which is great, but changes the stakes completely. They are just now settling in to what types of kids can actually succeed at SMU see '15

[SMU2007]

So essentially trouble with elite talent (read: poor students) not being able to cut it academically? This hardly seems like a problem. No other legit program (Georgetown, duke etc) has this problem and they are FAR superior academically. You are either committed to having a hoops program or you aren't but cut the BS with the "well we can only recruit guys who can make it at SMU".

[Rebel10]

So essentially trouble with elite talent (read: poor students) not being able to cut it academically? This hardly seems like a problem. No other legit program (Georgetown, duke etc) has this problem and they are FAR superior academically. You are either committed to having a hoops program or you aren't but cut the BS with the "well we can only recruit guys who can make it at SMU".

I think Duke and GT have ways of getting academically challenged players through the system as others have stated. Apparently SMU does not at least to their level.

[footballdad]

Say football Dad I bet your son wishes you would shut your pie hole. Not fare to him that you busted out of the closet and started burning down the house. As an X player parent that's a line you have jumped over and urinated on. You play the game while your there - leave at least the perception that you care. Protect your sons interests. I guess it's to late now ashes everywhere.

yeah you're right, it's not 'fare' ??????

Plenty of CURRENT player parents absolutely trying to burn down the June Jones debacle. As an X PLAYER parent you should just mind your own business. Let me guess, you were probably one of the moronic Jones cheerleaders who still support him to this day?

If so, you were part of the problem we will now spend years trying to fix.

If your son is on the team, you and your son are part of the problem we are now trying to fix.

Haha, and conveniently ignore the June Jones debacle, decades of athletic & admin incompetence, and absolute fan apathy. No,no,no....it's the players & parents fault!

[hoopmanx]

So essentially trouble with elite talent (read: poor students) not being able to cut it academically? This hardly seems like a problem. No other legit program (Georgetown, duke etc) has this problem and they are FAR superior academically. You are either committed to having a hoops program or you aren't but cut the BS with the "well we can only recruit guys who can make it at SMU".

We aren't committed then, cause Markus is ineligible. We've also got others that have academic clouds hanging over their heads. That doesn't really happen at big time programs. Look at the kids we recruited this cycle, they do fit a profile by comparison to the past few years. We're changed tacts and rightfully so, cause we're babysitting more than balling

[footballdad]

I'd play the guessing game as to who he is, so I could send him a nice floral arrangement and some muscle milk, but we have too many kids with no other offers for me to be able to get close to nailing it down.

http://www.smumustangs.com/sports/m-foo ... 63188.html

You might want to reconsider randomly targeting individual SMU football players. Just sayin.

[mustangxc]

The problem was sh*t coaching and recruiting. You can hardly hold that against a kid who did nothing more than accept his only d1 offer. Geez.

Bad recruiting leads to bad players, which is what we have on the current roster. Hence my statement. That may not be the kids fault, but it is part of the problem.

[mustangxc]

yeah you're right, it's not 'fare' ??????

Plenty of CURRENT player parents absolutely trying to burn down the June Jones debacle. As an X PLAYER parent you should just mind your own business. Let me guess, you were probably one of the moronic Jones cheerleaders who still support him to this day?

If so, you were part of the problem we will now spend years trying to fix.

If your son is on the team, you and your son are part of the problem we are now trying to fix.

Haha, and conveniently ignore the June Jones debacle, decades of athletic & admin incompetence, and absolute fan apathy. No,no,no....it's the players & parents fault!

I never said you were the problem I said you were part of the problem.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Haha, and conveniently ignore the June Jones debacle, decades of athletic & admin incompetence, and absolute fan apathy. No,no,no....it's the players & parents fault!

You do have a point dad.

[RGV Pony]

So essentially trouble with elite talent (read: poor students) not being able to cut it academically? This hardly seems like a problem. No other legit program (Georgetown, duke etc) has this problem and they are FAR superior academically. You are either committed to having a hoops program or you aren't but cut the BS with the "well we can only recruit guys who can make it at SMU".

We aren't committed then, cause Markus is ineligible. We've also got others that have academic clouds hanging over their heads. That doesn't really happen at big time programs. Look at the kids we recruited this cycle, they do fit a profile by comparison to the past few years. We're changed tacts and rightfully so, cause we're babysitting more than balling

Really wish the provost and whomever would get a clue so that we can be committed. Increasing the University's profile does not dilute anyone's degree.
There's a reason MK had a 2.7 at Nova and it isn't because Nova is an easier school. The Big East schools "got it" a long time ago

[ponyscott]

Lets just say that SMU accepted all of a players transfer classes when he transferred from XX and then the admin later changed the acceptability of certain classes which lowered his GPA which now requires higher grades at SMU now to get his acceptable GPA up?..would that frustrate someone?

[RGV Pony]

Not to mention provide a cause of action for fraud.

Representation : we will accept all those classes!
Reliance: aight cool. I'll go there.
Misrepresentation : no we won't! Changed our mind
Damages: ineligible and whatever else could be thrown at the wall which might stick

Let's hear it attys

[ponyscott]

What happened to the promised Life Skills teaching position? Where are the promised professional tutors and not student tutors who tend to be scarce around finals, as they have tests themselves?

[RGV Pony]

100% the call of the provost. Athletics and academics alike want it separate