Godfather on Turner-administration

[Nacho]

rice and smu are easily the best academic schools that are not in a p5 conference.
rice has figuered out how not to hire idiots as head football coaches. we need to work on that.

[EastStang]

Don't we still have a dance department? Or can't Larry Brown teach some of Kennedy's classes? Vaguely remember that's what we did in the old days when a player was close to academic disqualification. We still have the University College and all our students are still required to take a lot of humanities courses their first two years, I can't believe those are considered "excess academic credits" since I would think Villanova has similar requirements. Our assistance to students is supposed to be top notch, not UNC level of assistance, but as far as I can tell, pretty good tutoring assistance.

[Stallion]

I'm not saying all freshman courses were excess electives-but some could be. It would explain how the rumored allegation that "SMU promised to accept some courses from Villanova and did for admission but then that darned Turner refused to give Kennedy credit for them in his major as previously promised" could in fact be the result of NCAA rules-not SMU rules or policy. The NCAA rules do allow acceptance of some classes in first 2 years that can not be used to calculate the 40,60, 80 Progress Toward Degree after the start of 3rd year and the required designation of major

[MV pony]

While at LSU, I was pulling a low C in Spanish, a subject I had absolutely no interest in. I was not an athlete, just a blonde haired, green eyed sorority girl with a pretty good figure. One day after class, my Spanish professor offered to tutor me for free. I wasn't interested but I'm sure this practice goes on today. Thus, my recommendation is that a professor must personally tutor any student athlete that is under performing in his or her class. Bet grades rise quickly.

[SMU 86]

While at LSU, I was pulling a low C in Spanish, a subject I had absolutely no interest in. I was not an athlete, just a blonde haired, green eyed sorority girl with a pretty good figure. One day after class, my Spanish professor offered to tutor me for free. I wasn't interested but I'm sure this practice goes on today. Thus, my recommendation is that a professor must personally tutor any student athlete that is under performing in his or her class. Bet grades rise quickly.

He may have had other motives for the free tutoring if you looked like that because I am pretty sure he didn't offer that to everyone. LOL.

[JasonB]

rice and smu are easily the best academic schools that are not in a p5 conference.
rice has figuered out how not to hire idiots as head football coaches. we need to work on that.

The Rice model is to recruit 2 star players who can cut it in school and fit their system. Rely on player evaluation to uncover diamonds in the rough. And then rely on transfers or the occasional 3 star player who wants a good education to allow them to succeed at their level in their conference.

Nobody on this board would be happy with that model. The way around it is to make it easier for the kids to be successful in school. Yes, we have some better majors now, but that doesn't mean that it is "easy". Dexter Manley was able to graduate with learning how to read. That is how easy the big schools make their programs.

[MV pony]

While at LSU, I was pulling a low C in Spanish, a subject I had absolutely no interest in. I was not an athlete, just a blonde haired, green eyed sorority girl with a pretty good figure. One day after class, my Spanish professor offered to tutor me for free. I wasn't interested but I'm sure this practice goes on today. Thus, my recommendation is that a professor must personally tutor any student athlete that is under performing in his or her class. Bet grades rise quickly.

He may have had other motives for the free tutoring if you looked like that because I am pretty sure he didn't offer that to everyone. LOL.

I'm sure he did but since professors have the time to tutor certain students for free, they have time to tutor student athletes who represent the university. It should be part of their job descriptions.

[No Quarter]

JasonB wrote, in part:

The Rice model is to recruit 2 star players who can cut it in school and fit their system. Rely on player evaluation to uncover diamonds in the rough. And then rely on transfers or the occasional 3 star player who wants a good education to allow them to succeed at their level in their conference.


I'm curious. How many transfers are on the Rice football and basketball squads this year?

JasonB also wrote:

Nobody on this board would be happy with that model. The way around it is to make it easier for the kids to be successful in school. Yes, we have some better majors now, but that doesn't mean that it is "easy". Dexter Manley was able to graduate with learning how to read. That is how easy the big schools make their programs.


Sorry. When all is said and done I don't think that admission can or should be taken as a guarantee of graduation, or two years of eligibility in the case of ball players, for anyone.

I do (commenting on another previous post) believe that any help that tutoring yields is warranted but should not be a requirement for a faculty member.

[Rebel10]

Dexter Manley was able to graduate with learning how to read. That is how easy the big schools make their programs.

That is not good. At least we should help them get better where they have deficiencies.

[Stallion]

Dexter Manley couldn't have been admitted to any Division 1A school after Prop 48 was passed by the NCAA. The Dexter Manley's of the world don't belong at a quality educational institution until they have done remedial work at a JUCO or CC. Don't give me this crap about how unfair it is-unless you give a crap about the millions of other Texas kids also getting an inferior public school education. Life is sometimes unfair. A nationally prominent university is not under a duty to solve our society's negligence in education. Try the President, Governors and legislatures

[StallionsModelT]

Dexter Manley couldn't have been admitted to any Division 1A school after Prop 48 was passed by the NCAA. The Dexter Manley's of the world don't belong at a quality educational institution until they have done remedial work at a JUCO or CC. Don't give me this crap about how unfair it is-unless you give a crap about the millions of other Texas kids also getting an inferior public school education. Life is sometimes unfair. A nationally prominent university is not under a duty to solve our society's negligence in education. Try the President, Governors and legislatures

Wait I thought that was what the "big boy" political party that you claim is responsible for every good thing to ever happen in the history of ever was going to solve for us? I mean liberal states like Illinois have great public education.

[ojaipony]

Bottom line: MK shouldn't be majoring in history.

(in fact, no one should be majoring in history -- definitely take some history courses (I LOVE history, many of the books in my personal library are history books), but it's a stupid major unless you want to become a history professor. Exact same thing can be said about majors like "philosophy" (if there is one), "english", "sociology" . . . and no athlete with the time demands like MK has should be MAJORING in anything that requires that much reading (and writing of papers). And my comment has absolutely nothing to do with the young man's intellect (I don't know him, I'm sure he's bright) - my comment is all about TIME . . . takes a lot of time to read 5+ books/week and write just as many, if not more, papers. When you are playing 2-3 games/week including travel, it's just too much and not worth it . . . IMHO.

[ojaipony]

While at LSU, I was pulling a low C in Spanish, a subject I had absolutely no interest in. I was not an athlete, just a blonde haired, green eyed sorority girl with a pretty good figure. One day after class, my Spanish professor offered to tutor me for free. I wasn't interested but I'm sure this practice goes on today. Thus, my recommendation is that a professor must personally tutor any student athlete that is under performing in his or her class. Bet grades rise quickly.

He may have had other motives for the free tutoring if you looked like that because I am pretty sure he didn't offer that to everyone. LOL.

I'm sure he did but since professors have the time to tutor certain students for free, they have time to tutor student athletes who represent the university. It should be part of their job descriptions.

MV pony, just curious, how long ago was that?

[Nacho]

http://cas.bethel.edu/dept/history/famous_majors

hopefully one day mk will join this list.

[Stallion]

Famous History Majors: (damn we found the same link at the same time)

http://cas.bethel.edu/dept/history/famous_majors


A University is not a trade school. A university should teach its students how to think not how to perform technical rote. mechanical calculation or computer skill. In case you didn't notice because you never took a step outside the business school, SMU is a liberal arts school that attempts to provide a broad based education. Many use a liberal arts education in other graduate level pursuits like Law School, Politics, Education, Communications, Jounalism etc. Its nonsense to say that a student should never be a History major.