Not Good for SMU

[CoxMustangFan]

Multiple threads cheering for the TCU snub. While I can understand the glee from TCU's misfortune, on balance, this is not good for SMU (IMO). Let's look at it from a pros/cons point of view:

Pros of TCU Missing the Playoff
1) Those of us cheering against our rival, some level of joy.
2) TCU doesn't elevate further in stature, not making it harder for us to recruit against them.

Cons of TCU Missing the Playoff
1) If the B12 decides they need teams, they're going to pick off AAC teams (and it's very very unlikely one of those teams is SMU).
2) It's possible/likely SMU is a team those two schools will not want to play (at least until we're a scalp worth having -- in their view).
3) This could have been a knock on small private schools, at least in part. As much as I would puke in my mouth, having other small private schools in Texas be successful has some level of transference -- if we're serious about competing.

I'm personally not laughing too hard right now.

[ponyfan08]

I think you are spot on! Totally agree.

[Comet]

I'm not as concerned right now, the likely outcome is an expansion to 8 teams happening sooner rather than later.

[78pony]

100% agree Cox.

[ponyscott]

Multiple threads cheering for the TCU snub. While I can understand the glee from TCU's misfortune, on balance, this is not good for SMU (IMO). Let's look at it from a pros/cons point of view:

Pros of TCU Missing the Playoff
1) Those of us cheering against our rival, some level of joy.
2) TCU doesn't elevate further in stature, not making it harder for us to recruit against them.

Cons of TCU Missing the Playoff
1) If the B12 decides they need teams, they're going to pick off AAC teams (and it's very very unlikely one of those teams is SMU).
2) It's possible/likely SMU is a team those two schools will not want to play (at least until we're a scalp worth having -- in their view).
3) This could have been a knock on small private schools, at least in part. As much as I would puke in my mouth, having other small private schools in Texas be successful has some level of transference -- if we're serious about competing.

I'm personally not laughing too hard right now.

Yep ^^^ this is true...unfortunately.

[alyssa]

I'd support TCU and Baylor to the playoffs. I'd never support Alabama, FSU, Ohio State and others to it.

The schools should have refused to play in something so stupid as a committee appointed playoff.
Committee members are one of the problems of the miserable way college football is treated.
I better stop....

[coloradoStang]

how bout we tell the big 12. "hey we will come play in your conference for pennies what you pay the rest of your members, and we will re negotiate every 10 years (or something)."

They pay us like 25% of what they pay everyone else, we make same money we are now but we are in a better conference with more relevant competition to our fan base. The big 12 gets to expand and get their conference championship without diluting the money pot more then it already is while also adding a team that (in their eyes) will most likely never really compete. There is really no team right now for them to add that would add more or the same value to the money pot that they would take away.

Worst case in 10 years we are still terrible they kick us out for someone else (but good luck getting someone to agree to a deal better then what we did). They got to have their championship and didn't lose money.

Best case with the new conference our recruiting improves drastically and we actually add some value so we try to get some more money during negotiations. I'm just saying I'm not against who-ring ourselves out at this point.

[DanFreibergerForHeisman]

Cox is right on this one.

[Pony81]

Smu has already offered a discount to get in.
TCU received a reduced payout for a few years in the Big 12. Not sure how long but I think 4 years before they get a full share.

[CoxMustangFan]

Cox is right on this one.

Well, it does happen so rarely!

[coloradoStang]

Smu has already offered a discount to get in.
TCU received a reduced payout for a few years in the Big 12. Not sure how long but I think 4 years before they get a full share.

really? Where did you see that?

Whatever we offered we should 100% revisit that idea and try to work on a deal. Get hunt on the phone with T. Boone (he just recently mentioned us for expansion) or something idk. They obviously don't want to expand but we would be so easy for a ton of different reasons, and if we didn't dilute the money then that has got to be a better deal then them taking Memphis for full price.

[stc9]

One of the radio guys just had a really good point about expanding the playoffs to 8 teams. If you are the SEC you might consider getting rid of your championship game so teams don't play themselves out of the playoffs.

[Hilltop]

While I agree with a number of the points made in the initial post, I think this is overall a positive for SMU. Giving TCU a further chance to cement their status in the DFW area and the nation. To address one of the other concerns though. I agree this increases the odds of the Big XII asking two other teams to join. At no time have I ever felt like SMU, even a good SMU, would get this invite. Most likely it will go to Cincinnati and UCF. That being said, the SEC, ACC, and BIG X will not take well to having the BIG XII enter their territories. I could see this actually being the catalyst that leads to the next round of expansion and possibly an invite to the BIG X or ACC.

[San Antonio Mustang]

It is very bad news for us. We are one of the reasons neither Baylor nor TCU are in the playoffs. Teams with playoff goals are going to run from us. Even when we get much better, our strength of schedule will be weaker than the competition. And that will be true for all the AAC. The P5 will play the P5 and the G5 will be hard pressed to ever match the strength of schedule. I think the playoffs should be 8 teams also, but that is not going to help the G5 schools as long as strength of schedule is the most important ingredient.

[pwnyxpress]

Message from the committee received, "You small privates need to quit trying to play with the big boys and stick to something you are better suited to, basketball."