Anybody going to the reseat discussion Dec. 11?

[CalallenStang]

^^ yep. After speaking w ticket office and mustang club, a lot of my fears were eased. If you have tix this season, you are guaranteed tix next season. I think the most affected ppl will be the ones in the red seats, loges and sidelines.

Let's say you have sideline seats and you determine that you don't want to pay more next year. Are you first in line for baseline seats, or are the people with baseline seats first in line for those baseline seats? What happens if there are more people who want the cheaper seats than there are seats, and fewer people who want the sideline seats than there are seats?

Good point. Paying $1280 more for four tix 20ft. OVER (not lower) is not worth it. I'll be moving to the baseline.

I likely will be too...unless there aren't enough seats over there. I'm not raising my donation level beyond what I already contribute, which means that I'll be giving up my seats.

[floridianstang]

Think about it: they aren't letting anyone that is not a season tix holder in. I think most people will end up where they are, or an equivalent seat. The shakeup will most likely be some of the people that won't be able to afford loges and redseats and most likely move up and the bigger donors who were in the $250 donation level take those loge seats. I feel like it won't be that big of a deal:

[bluepony]

Sorry, the school needs the money to remain competitive. Complaining over seat relo's so SMU can remain competitive is silly. You clearly don't know what's at risk. I'll pay a decent amount, but I hope I get priced out of my seats. If I lose my seats, I just pray it's to a loud and active fan that attends every game. People that want SMU to continue to run in the red (or lack proper resources) so that they can get a bargain on season tickets is amazing.

Ask Michigan how the money chasing is going. tOSU is about to lead the nation in football attendance which is the first time anyone other than Michigan has led it since '98 and for the first time in 50 years, there's no waiting list for Michigan football season tickets.

Oh, and it's the most wine and cheese crowd ever. 109,000 sounds like about 19,000 little kittens on game days, embarrassing. Legit the worst big stadium in terms of environment I've ever been to.

Michigan now has no athletic director, they've had to announce they're going to cut back student season ticket prices because students won't show up after they raised them to a ridiculous amount, and they're kissing fans [deleted] all over the place while they burnt those same loyal fans about 4 years ago when they did the major press box renovations ($300 mil worth of renovations I believe).

You're making the situation out to be a little worse than it actually is. This season's attendance woes were the sole result of escalating ticket prices despite an inferior on-field product playing a [deleted] schedule. Once Harbaugh is hired, those woes will be rectified--though you really can't do much about the students arriving to the game late.

I do absolutely agree that it's a pretty "wine and cheese" crowd.

[CalallenStang]

Think about it: they aren't letting anyone that is not a season tix holder in.

This misses the point. If your raise prices, there will be fewer people whose willingness to pay matches the sideline 200s and more people whose willingness to pay matches the baseline 200s. Some people will be squeezed out

[mrydel]

Think about it: they aren't letting anyone that is not a season tix holder in.

This misses the point. If your raise prices, there will be fewer people whose willingness to pay matches the sideline 200s and more people whose willingness to pay matches the baseline 200s. Some people will be squeezed out

I agree with this but it is probably what they need to do. Prices go up in everything. I bought 2 tickets last year because they were cheap. I made it to 2 games. This year I have not yet made it to one. So far I have been lucky enough to give mine away so the seats are used, but it would be better for someone who wants them and is willing to pay the price to buy them. I will not renew because I will not pay the new amount when I cannot get to the game. So the school will get a supporter who hopefully will show up and they will get more money. I think this is some of what they are trying to accomplish and it does not bother me at all as long as the demand is there.

[CalallenStang]

Think about it: they aren't letting anyone that is not a season tix holder in.

This misses the point. If your raise prices, there will be fewer people whose willingness to pay matches the sideline 200s and more people whose willingness to pay matches the baseline 200s. Some people will be squeezed out

I agree with this but it is probably what they need to do. Prices go up in everything. I bought 2 tickets last year because they were cheap. I made it to 2 games. This year I have not yet made it to one. So far I have been lucky enough to give mine away so the seats are used, but it would be better for someone who wants them and is willing to pay the price to buy them. I will not renew because I will not pay the new amount when I cannot get to the game. So the school will get a supporter who hopefully will show up and they will get more money. I think this is some of what they are trying to accomplish and it does not bother me at all as long as the demand is there.

I agree that prices need to go up but they should go up a little at a time with first right of refusal for every ticket holder...not like what they are doing.

[MiracleOnMockingbird]

I agree with this 100%.

I was a student at SMU from 2003-2010. I have attended countless basketball games, football games, and even soccer matches over those years.

As Bluto Blutarski once said, "Seven years of college down the drain."

[mustang1992]

I agree that prices need to go up but they should go up a little at a time with first right of refusal for every ticket holder...not like what they are doing.

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I think most people will not be getting their seats. Think about it, when my window opens up, I'll log on and check to see where my availability will be. If I find two seats that are in better position than the current ones I have, I'd go for those. We currently sit in 211, row 5, if I found 2 seats in row 1 same section, I'd go for those.

Most might end up in the same general area, but it won't be the same seats.

I don't like the idea of having to bid on something that I don't know what I'm getting. If I up my donation, there is still no guarantee that I will even get my same location, much less the same seats.

[mrydel]

I have yet to see a final statement on how it will be handled. Has anyone? If you have, why have you not posted it? If you have not, why do you speculate without knowing?

[CoxMustangFan]

I agree that prices need to go up but they should go up a little at a time with first right of refusal for every ticket holder...not like what they are doing.

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I think most people will not be getting their seats. Think about it, when my window opens up, I'll log on and check to see where my availability will be. If I find two seats that are in better position than the current ones I have, I'd go for those. We currently sit in 211, row 5, if I found 2 seats in row 1 same section, I'd go for those.

Most might end up in the same general area, but it won't be the same seats.

I don't like the idea of having to bid on something that I don't know what I'm getting. If I up my donation, there is still no guarantee that I will even get my same location, much less the same seats.

You're likely more right than wrong. No offense to anyone on this board, but rather than piece together message board chatter, I spoke with SMU multiple times yesterday to better understand this.

When you boil down all the "facts", and unless something changes, I see one very specific group being really unhappy when the dust settles: the group that has really good seats today + unwilling/unable to up their donation + relatively low priority points. It's likely all three of those have to align for you to "get screwed".

Take my situation for example. After this year I'm guessing my priority point rank will be around 1,100. As long as I donate enough, I'll be covered under the seat selection process. The problem -- and to 92's point -- I won't know what's enough. Do I need to donate at the $1,000 level or the $2,500 level. If you're lower on priority points you likely want to donate up a level.

I don't like this approach by SMU, but I get it. Quite frankly, if you have really great seats, have few priority points, and aren't willing to up your donations, I'm not sure you're going to find a large audience for complaints. The one segment I feel bad for is the long time SMU supporter that took a year off post 2011-2012 and perhaps can't spend a lot on a donation. Hopefully SMU is doing something quietly to accommodate that group.

[SMUstangs22]

My concern is the ripple effect in this situation. Loge and red seats get displaced, they take the best sideline 200's seats. Those who were displaced from that that section when it shakes out take the best upper sideline seats. From there then those take the best baseline seats etc.

[CoxMustangFan]

My concern is the ripple effect in this situation. Loge and red seats get displaced, they take the best sideline 200's seats. Those who were displaced from that that section when it shakes out take the best upper sideline seats. From there then those take the best baseline seats etc.

Fair, but there will be some people "drop out" that will slow the "ripple effects". Honestly, everyone should just chi-lax until they publish the website next week. I'm willing to bet beers that 90% will largely be unaffected in terms of location, materially speaking (we may have to pay a little more...).

5% will "Pony up" and move up; 5% will drop down and watch from home.

[SMUstangs22]

My concern is the ripple effect in this situation. Loge and red seats get displaced, they take the best sideline 200's seats. Those who were displaced from that that section when it shakes out take the best upper sideline seats. From there then those take the best baseline seats etc.

Fair, but there will be some people "drop out" that will slow the "ripple effects". Honestly, everyone should just chi-lax until they publish the website next week. I'm willing to bet beers that 90% will largely be unaffected in terms of location, materially speaking (we may have to pay a little more...).

5% will "Pony up" and move up; 5% will drop down and watch from home.

I cannot chi-lax. I am a ponyfans poster hah. Freaking out at limited information is what I do.

[CoxMustangFan]

I cannot chi-lax. I am a ponyfans poster hah. Freaking out at limited information is what I do.

LOL...fair enough.

[CalallenStang]

I agree that prices need to go up but they should go up a little at a time with first right of refusal for every ticket holder...not like what they are doing.

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I think most people will not be getting their seats. Think about it, when my window opens up, I'll log on and check to see where my availability will be. If I find two seats that are in better position than the current ones I have, I'd go for those. We currently sit in 211, row 5, if I found 2 seats in row 1 same section, I'd go for those.

Most might end up in the same general area, but it won't be the same seats.

I don't like the idea of having to bid on something that I don't know what I'm getting. If I up my donation, there is still no guarantee that I will even get my same location, much less the same seats.

You're likely more right than wrong. No offense to anyone on this board, but rather than piece together message board chatter, I spoke with SMU multiple times yesterday to better understand this.

When you boil down all the "facts", and unless something changes, I see one very specific group being really unhappy when the dust settles: the group that has really good seats today + unwilling/unable to up their donation + relatively low priority points. It's likely all three of those have to align for you to "get screwed".

Take my situation for example. After this year I'm guessing my priority point rank will be around 1,100. As long as I donate enough, I'll be covered under the seat selection process. The problem -- and to 92's point -- I won't know what's enough. Do I need to donate at the $1,000 level or the $2,500 level. If you're lower on priority points you likely want to donate up a level.

I don't like this approach by SMU, but I get it. Quite frankly, if you have really great seats, have few priority points, and aren't willing to up your donations, I'm not sure you're going to find a large audience for complaints. The one segment I feel bad for is the long time SMU supporter that took a year off post 2011-2012 and perhaps can't spend a lot on a donation. Hopefully SMU is doing something quietly to accommodate that group.

I feel bad for the young alumni. They are the ones that are most likely to be hurt by this. And they are the ones that we most need to cultivate for future years.