Ding-Ding; round 2...

[Puckhead48E]

The cracks indicating loose footing at the foundation of the NCAA and their leadership, both at the organizational level and as a collective run both by and for the benefit of large state schools, are becoming more evident. Another challenge to the concept of amateur athletics, raising the question of the delta between athlete and student and the value of that relationship, has been filed in NC. Interesting story...and interesting case, which may force the NCAA to finally face the demon that is UNC gross academic fraud. Also interesting that they looped other reports of academic violations and issues to show a systemic problem...one that many in the smaller private school world have been pointing to while asking for the double-standard to be investigated instead of being reinforced.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/22/us/unc-paper-classes-lawsuit/index.html

[ojaipony]

The cracks indicating loose footing at the foundation of the NCAA and their leadership, both at the organizational level and as a collective run both by and for the benefit of large state schools, are becoming more evident. Another challenge to the concept of amateur athletics, raising the question of the delta between athlete and student and the value of that relationship, has been filed in NC. Interesting story...and interesting case, which may force the NCAA to finally face the demon that is UNC gross academic fraud. Also interesting that they looped other reports of academic violations and issues to show a systemic problem...one that many in the smaller private school world have been pointing to while asking for the double-standard to be investigated instead of being reinforced.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/22/us/unc-paper-classes-lawsuit/index.html

NCAA responds with OVER alleging academic fraud now to try to save whatever face they have left (ie SMU, etc). It will be an interesting spring. They will be swinging their dicks around that's for sure.

[StallionsModelT]

A farce of an organization that is run by inept cowards in the pockets of the big money programs.

[Puckhead48E]

I would agree, but with the overwhelming proof easily available (especially with this suit...oh, will that cup be overflowing), those schools charged by the NCAA reference the support of the UNC's and OSU's of the world. This suit goes against those P5 schools as the source of all problems directly because the NCAA placates them, at the detriment of the student-athletes and smaller schools. If the NCAA responds by cracking down on academic fraud disproportionately against smaller and private schools, it plays directly into the hands of this suit. They are in a position now, especially with the UNC case, where they need to hit them hard in the pants or else they might watch as their entire system is burned down to the ground. Time to get some popcorn!

[StallionsModelT]

If you think anything of substance will happen to UNC you are ignorant, stupid, or both. The NCAA has known for over two years what has been going on at UNC. Still haven't reached the "punishment" phase. Whatever that means. They'll get probation, maybe a few schollies taken away, and that's it.

[smusportspage]

A farce of an organization that is run by inept cowards in the pockets of the big money programs.

Yep. The bastards. #NCCAANOINTEGRITY

[StallionsModelT]

After watching the way they botched the Miami investigation and then to follow it up with this UNC thing looks to be playing out I don't see how anyone can defend the NCAA.

[Puckhead48E]

And all of that, and other examples, provide a prime angle for this suit to attack the NCAA for uneven application of compliance standards. I would not be surprised to see this case signal a sea change in interpretation, enforcement, and future adaptation of rules regarding student-athletes, from the interaction with HS recruits to the limitation of a schools ability to control a players degree program selection, to oversight. The discovery process alone in this case is going to open so many dark closets and bring light to some very smoky back-rooms. If UNC and the NCAA can walk away from this without either the imposition of serious penalties on the entire UNC athletic program, as well as penalties imposed by the court against UNC on behalf of former students, or a class-action suit being brought by a collective of smaller schools who were punished under the same rules that were blatantly enforced in an arbitrary and separate manner, then they are Teflon. To say this and the O'Bannon case were the precursors of the single most titanic period of change in D1 athletic programs may be an understatement when looking back 10 years from now.

[StallionsModelT]

And all of that, and other examples, provide a prime angle for this suit to attack the NCAA for uneven application of compliance standards. I would not be surprised to see this case signal a sea change in interpretation, enforcement, and future adaptation of rules regarding student-athletes, from the interaction with HS recruits to the limitation of a schools ability to control a players degree program selection, to oversight. The discovery process alone in this case is going to open so many dark closets and bring light to some very smoky back-rooms. If UNC and the NCAA can walk away from this without either the imposition of serious penalties on the entire UNC athletic program, as well as penalties imposed by the court against UNC on behalf of former students, or a class-action suit being brought by a collective of smaller schools who were punished under the same rules that were blatantly enforced in an arbitrary and separate manner, then they are Teflon. To say this and the O'Bannon case were the precursors of the single most titanic period of change in D1 athletic programs may be an understatement when looking back 10 years from now.

I think there is a very good chance the NCAA, as we now know it, doesn't exist in 10 years. When the P5 schools get all of their ducks in a row re: expansion and the ultimate endgame of 4x16 then I could see them abandoning their affiliation with the NCAA and forming their own regulatory body. At that point college athletics becomes a semi-pro league.

[Mustangs_Maroons]

college athletics for the bic public schools is already semi-pro.

they're allowed to operate under their own rules with little to no real consequence. If Perv state didn't get any punishment (sustainable) that is accountable for what it allowed to happen then no other big public school will.

[Arkpony]

If you think anything of substance will happen to UNC you are ignorant, stupid, or both. The NCAA has known for over two years what has been going on at UNC. Still haven't reached the "punishment" phase. Whatever that means. They'll get probation, maybe a few schollies taken away, and that's it.

Ummm..did it occur to you he might just be "wrong" as opposed to "ignorant, stupid or both"?

[Puckhead48E]

If you think anything of substance will happen to UNC you are ignorant, stupid, or both. The NCAA has known for over two years what has been going on at UNC. Still haven't reached the "punishment" phase. Whatever that means. They'll get probation, maybe a few schollies taken away, and that's it.

Ummm..did it occur to you he might just be "wrong" as opposed to "ignorant, stupid or both"?

No worries. I'm sure it never occurred to him that the discovery phase of a lawsuit involving the attorney who just decimated the NCAA's amateurism excuse in court might include requesting all documentation of current and past investigations and all decisions made by the NCAA for various sized institutions, thus using the past preponderance of the NCAA to enforce regulations in a completely subjective manner against them in court. While they are collective of greed defined by double-standards, the NCAA can still see the writing on the wall. Either they actually take a stand against UNC in this current instance, or they have that weak decision used against them and get destroyed in court.

It's easy to fall back on the past when ignoring the one thing that is changing the face and power of the NCAA; everyone who questioned this organization before relied on the court of public opinion in an attempt to change them, when the NCAA only cared about their bottom line and the only way to impact that was the justice system.