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what do you think about analytics?

Postby Nacho » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:39 am

http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/

i don't know anything about analytics except what i read above.
i was wondering what you guys think about it.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby SMU Section F » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:42 am

All things in moderation. Relying solely on analytics is silly, but so is ignoring them completely.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby ponyte » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:47 am

One wonders if the nature of the NBA game drives the changing trends in shot selection. In the NBA a 20 point lead is nothing. The pressure to score more my drive more 3 point shots.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby SMUstang07 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:00 am

Shooting 35% from 3 is better than 45% from 2. We don't take enough 3 pointers. FTs are the best shot on the court and we do well getting to the line.

LB could stand to listen to Daryl Morey a little but the reverse is true as well.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby Nacho » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:04 am

we only have one 3 point shooter although sterling should take more 3s.
our real strenght is our inside game with nic hitting some 3s.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby Harry0569 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:12 am

The use of analytics are paramount to today's game. Every NBA team uses them and I would assume that the vast majority of college teams use them too. With that said, you can't solely rely on them. I think that the use of analytics are helping teams prepare game plans/strategies as well as recruit/develop players that currently have/will have a specific skill set.


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A healthy balance between analytics and the "eye test" are imperative for success.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby Harry0569 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:13 am

Nacho wrote:http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/

i don't know anything about analytics except what i read above.
i was wondering what you guys think about it.


Nacho - if you are an NBA fan or a basketball fan, read every Zach Lowe column on Grantland. He is the best basketball writer on the planet, and he incorporates analytics into his writing that are easy to understand.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby Nacho » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:17 am

thanks. i will.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby JasonB » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:22 am

Analysis is good, proper analysis is better.

Rather than effective percentage, they should be evaluating effective points per shot. You have to work in free throw attempts into the total calculation. The shots in the paint are going to have a higher valuation for points per shot because of the fouls and free throws.

When you add those number in, the 3-point shot versus the paint shot becomes more of a wash, leaning towards the inside game if you have the right players.

But it makes the mid-range jumper even less valuable. Worst shot in basketball, which is funny because draft experts appreciate it so much.

You also have to factor in offensive rebounding and defensive efficiency. You probably have a little better chance at an offensive rebound and second chance points with an inside game. Additionally, when you attempt shots inside, your team is better set up to defend against the break, whereas long rebounds off of a 3 lead to more fast breaks. Shooting free throws has a positive impact on defensive efficiency because it allows players the chance to organize and rest. Finally, the higher percentage shot from the inside game also has a positive impact on defensive efficiency because made shots allow you to set up your defense.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby Pony_Law » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:38 am

Analytics are a tool but I think of all the sports in basketball they are the least accurate in determining what wins. In basketball analytics it says you should pretty much never shoot mid range jumpers. All of michael Jordan's teams won championships with him shooting midrange jumpers. The mav's won their championship on midrange jumpers by dirk. If you have either the height or athleticism to make a nice turn around fade away, defensive skill of the opponent pretty much ceases to matter and you are offensively unstoppable.
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Re: what do you think about analytics?

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:44 am

In basketball, analytics just put numbers and trackable data to things you should already be seeing, if you know the game. I don't think they actually teach anybody anything, just reinforce the eyes
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