New IPF

[tristatecoog]

UH opened its IPF in 1994, and I believe it could use some upgrades.

SMU beat a lot of schools with a hoops practice facility. UH is building one now. Isn't TCU just now building one too? When I saw Highland Park's weight room area last year, it seemed pretty sad. Then again, it's high school.

[Digetydog]

You beat me to it! HP has had one for years.[/quote]

Rather than High Schools, I prefer to look at Universities: Let's look at a few.
1) Recent National Champion Florida Gators - Nope
2) Miami Hurricanes - Nope
3) California Golden Beard - nope
4) Stanford Cardinal - nope
5) Wake Forest - building one now.
6) NC State - Got one last year.
7) Florida State -Got one in 2013.

What do they have in common? They are all located in climates where an IPF was (is) not viewed as a priority.

Thanks to the need to "Keep up with the Jones'," I suspect every one of them will have some sort of IPF within 10 years. I am glad that we are getting one and expect that it will be World Class (No bubble for us).

But, the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded" mentality is mistaken. While not Top of the Line, it's not like we are still playing in Ownby Stadium and forcing our players to train at 24 Hour Fitness.

[couch 'em]

But, the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded" mentality is mistaken.

Who exactly, other than maybe June himself, has this idea?

[Grant Carter]

But, the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded" mentality is mistaken.

Who exactly, other than maybe June himself, has this idea?

I was wondering the same thing.

[RyanSMU98]

The comments I recall on this subject were along the lines of "it won't impact our performance on the field, but how can we possibly expect any recruit to want to come here if we don't have one because it proves we're not big time". Still not completely sure I agree with that, but hell if we're getting one then great!

[Digetydog]

But, the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded" mentality is mistaken.

Who exactly, other than maybe June himself, has this idea?

I was wondering the same thing.

Coming out of the June Jones era, I think a decent number of SMU fans are convinced that our facilities (including the lack of an IPF) are seriously substandard. Often, they point to IPF's at local high schools as evidence of how far we are behind.

Nevertheless, despite all of June's complaining to the Dallas Morning News, our facilities are not "that bad" and should have been sufficient to build a competitive program.

Note: I am not saying that improving our facilities is a bad idea.

[Grant Carter]

Coming out of the June Jones era, I think a decent number of SMU fans are convinced that our facilities (including the lack of an IPF) are seriously substandard. Often, they point to IPF's at local high schools as evidence of how far we are behind.

Nevertheless, despite all of June's complaining to the Dallas Morning News, our facilities are not "that bad" and should have been sufficient to build a competitive program.

Note: I am not saying that improving our facilities is a bad idea.

So in other words, you cannot name anyone, other than maybe June himself, who had the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded."

[mustang addict]

Even Forney has one!!

[CA Mustang]

The comments I recall on this subject were along the lines of "it won't impact our performance on the field, but how can we possibly expect any recruit to want to come here if we don't have one because it proves we're not big time". Still not completely sure I agree with that, but hell if we're getting one then great!

What I find to be most amusing is people freely admit an IPF won't directly improve performance (and consequently results on the field), yet they can't understand why the university hasn't poured millions of dollars into one already. For folks who claim to be fiscally responsible, where else would such logic be acceptable?

[Digetydog]

Coming out of the June Jones era, I think a decent number of SMU fans are convinced that our facilities (including the lack of an IPF) are seriously substandard. Often, they point to IPF's at local high schools as evidence of how far we are behind.

Nevertheless, despite all of June's complaining to the Dallas Morning News, our facilities are not "that bad" and should have been sufficient to build a competitive program.

Note: I am not saying that improving our facilities is a bad idea.

So in other words, you cannot name anyone, other than maybe June himself, who had the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded."

Try reading the entire thread. You'll note how important, huge, etc some people believe the IPF will be. They think it will improve our record. I don't.

[blackoutpony]

Coming out of the June Jones era, I think a decent number of SMU fans are convinced that our facilities (including the lack of an IPF) are seriously substandard. Often, they point to IPF's at local high schools as evidence of how far we are behind.

Nevertheless, despite all of June's complaining to the Dallas Morning News, our facilities are not "that bad" and should have been sufficient to build a competitive program.

Note: I am not saying that improving our facilities is a bad idea.

So in other words, you cannot name anyone, other than maybe June himself, who had the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded."

Try reading the entire thread. You'll note how important, huge, etc some people believe the IPF will be. They think it will improve our record. I don't.

No, it will improve our recruiting, which will massively improve our record. And who knows, maybe it will help win a game every now and then, for example, being able to have a functional practice in the event of a Texas gully washer or two going on outside. You only have 12 regular season games, so all they all really matter. You play how you practice.

[Grant Carter]

Coming out of the June Jones era, I think a decent number of SMU fans are convinced that our facilities (including the lack of an IPF) are seriously substandard. Often, they point to IPF's at local high schools as evidence of how far we are behind.

Nevertheless, despite all of June's complaining to the Dallas Morning News, our facilities are not "that bad" and should have been sufficient to build a competitive program.

Note: I am not saying that improving our facilities is a bad idea.

So in other words, you cannot name anyone, other than maybe June himself, who had the idea that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded."

Try reading the entire thread. You'll note how important, huge, etc some people believe the IPF will be. They think it will improve our record. I don't.

I read the thread before commenting on it. No one on this thread has stated the position you claim some have that "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded." All of the adjectives you state are not synonymous with saying "all we needed was an IPF and June Jones would have succeeded" and I am not sure why you seem to think they are. Couch'em asked a simple question, you have not been able to answer it so far.

[RGV Pony]

I thought we just needed that pesky 1.5 classes of recruits

[Digetydog]

Try reading the entire thread. You'll note how important, huge, etc some people believe the IPF will be. They think it will improve our record. I don't.

No, it will improve our recruiting, which will massively improve our record. And who knows, maybe it will help win a game every now and then, for example, being able to have a functional practice in the event of a Texas gully washer or two going on outside. You only have 12 regular season games, so all they all really matter. You play how you practice.

While it "might" improve recruiting on the margins, our recent recruiting failures had very little to do with the lack of an IPF.

Since we play virtually all (do we even have any "dome" games scheduled in the next 5 years) our games outside, there is no reason that we cannot practice "like we play" -> Outside. In the past 5 years, how many practices have we lost where the practice conditions were worse than the game conditions?

[blackoutpony]

Plenty of coaches have talked about how having a great facility vastly helps with recruiting. If you're a team in a P5 conference with recent National Championship skins on the wall, you don't "need" one. But if you're a have not trying to steal big time recruits, you need all the help you can get.

And I think you're missing the point. How would practicing in torrential downpour for a few days, where the ball is slipping all over the place and players and running crap routes and taking sloppy angels, help if you're going to play a game in clear weather later in the week. Practices are valuable, you don't want to waste them. Give the coaches the option to decide how they want to practice.