SMU working with TFA and DISD

[Planter's Punch]

http://learningcurve.dmagazine.com/2015 ... -shortage/

"We also need innovative and effective alternative routes into the profession. In Dallas this is happening by coupling SMU’s Annette Caldwell Simmons School of Education and Human Development’s evidence-based teacher development with Teach For America - Dallas-Fort Worth’s (TFA-DFW) ability to recruit and effectively train high quality recent college graduates and professionals to teaching. This summer, TFA-DFW will launch its summer teacher development institute in collaboration with faculty from SMU Simmons and experts from the Momentous Institute. Through high-quality teacher training and development the Teach For America DFW Summer Institute is designed to instill a commitment in promising leaders to improve student academic achievement in high-need schools in our low-income communities in the short term and life prospects for these students in the long term."

[gostangs]

Don't forget also the Momentous Institute - which is the school and therapy centers supported by the Byron Nelson tournament and Salesmanship Club.

[Digetydog]

Don't forget also the Momentous Institute - which is the school and therapy centers supported by the Byron Nelson tournament and Salesmanship Club.

The "Momentus Institute" sounds like a fake place. They need a better name.

This sounds like a great program BTW.

The older I have gotten, the more I realized that SMU's failure to train teachers and/or nurses in the past was a mistake. Both professions are a great way to introduce everyone to the idea that "SMU is Dallas' University."

[Planter's Punch]

The older I have gotten, the more I realized that SMU's failure to train teachers and/or nurses in the past was a mistake. Both professions are a great way to introduce everyone to the idea that "SMU is Dallas' University."

I have been really impressed with how the Education School has used its rise in funding to engage the community. Nursing, Public Health, Pharmacy, would also be great ways to further connect to Dallas, if only SMU had kept its medical school. Who knows maybe in the future with a group of big donors, and a partnership with UTSW, SMU can add on a School of Health.

Currently SMU and UTSW have a combined PhD in Biostatistics program.

[couch 'em]

Don't forget also the Momentous Institute - which is the school and therapy centers supported by the Byron Nelson tournament and Salesmanship Club.

The "Momentus Institute" sounds like a fake place. They need a better name.

This sounds like a great program BTW.

The older I have gotten, the more I realized that SMU's failure to train teachers and/or nurses in the past was a mistake. Both professions are a great way to introduce everyone to the idea that "SMU is Dallas' University."

I am inside K-12 often, and most are promotung college by posting banners, signs, etc showing the college each teacher went to. Tons of TCU, almost never SMU. This is a bigger deal tham I ever would have realized. We are more foreign to kids in the area today outside of the park cities than TCU, or even UofD, UTA, UTD, Dallas Baptist, Abilene Christian, TWU, and most certainly UNT.

[CalallenStang]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

[RGV Pony]

A son of daughter of someone from the middle east with a lot of oil $?

[CalallenStang]

A son of daughter of someone from the middle east with a lot of oil $?

Not many of those out there that also want to be teachers

[couch 'em]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I ask this question about tcu yet tons out there

[coloradoStang]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I ask this question about tcu yet tons out there

there are plenty of degrees at SMU currently that have a pretty low starting salary and people still come to SMU pay the crazy amount of tuition and get those degrees. IMO teaching would be a way better career plan than some of the degrees we offer. Yes, the pay is low but it is very important for the society and is a fulfilling career.

[Planter's Punch]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I believe this is alternative way for high achieving recent graduates to obtain training and certification. Given that it is partnered with TFA and DISD, I am guessing the graduates do not pay the cost (especially SMU cost). Similar to what TFA already does.

As far as graduating at SMU:

The debt question is a good question, searching around the most recent average graduating student debt for schools in Texas, SMU ($28k) doesn't differ that much from large state schools, and is much less than TCU($38k) or most private universities in Texas (except Rice ($17k)). I doubt anyone here would recommend someone to pursue a fully debt financed undergrad at SMU for any major. I certainly woudln't.

http://ticas.org/posd/map-state-data#

But it still certainly takes a dedicated person, since to major in education at SMU, you already have to have a primary major. So if you want to be science or math teacher, you have to take serious courses and not the "education" versions. Which probably also makes the ability to leave for a higher paying job more viable/tempting.

[smupony94]

I would get a SMU degree for $28,000 in debt. The payments are negligible and you earn more

[CalallenStang]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I ask this question about tcu yet tons out there

TCU is cheaper than SMU though, right?

[CalallenStang]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I believe this is alternative way for high achieving recent graduates to obtain training and certification. Given that it is partnered with TFA and DISD, I am guessing the graduates do not pay the cost (especially SMU cost). Similar to what TFA already does.

As far as graduating at SMU:

The debt question is a good question, searching around the most recent average graduating student debt for schools in Texas, SMU ($28k) doesn't differ that much from large state schools, and is much less than TCU($38k) or most private universities in Texas (except Rice ($17k)). I doubt anyone here would recommend someone to pursue a fully debt financed undergrad at SMU for any major. I certainly woudln't.

http://ticas.org/posd/map-state-data#

But it still certainly takes a dedicated person, since to major in education at SMU, you already have to have a primary major. So if you want to be science or math teacher, you have to take serious courses and not the "education" versions. Which probably also makes the ability to leave for a higher paying job more viable/tempting.

Those debt numbers are very interesting. Our ability to provide high-achieving incoming students with scholarships certainly helps. In order to produce more teachers, though, we need even more scholarship support for people that express an interest in education.

[CalallenStang]

I get everything that is being said here, but who would pay SMU-level tuition rates to enter a profession that pays as little as teaching does?

I ask this question about tcu yet tons out there

there are plenty of degrees at SMU currently that have a pretty low starting salary and people still come to SMU pay the crazy amount of tuition and get those degrees. IMO teaching would be a way better career plan than some of the degrees we offer. Yes, the pay is low but it is very important for the society and is a fulfilling career.

As a society, we need to consider paying teachers more $ than they currently get. But that's a topic for another day, I suppose