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Postby BRStang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:13 am

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Postby ponyte » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:30 am

Isn't it great that our coach is desired by a major and successful program? That speaks volumes for the respect others outside the SMU community think of Bennett. It is great that our coach is in demand.

:roll: One would think everyone in the SMU community would be thrilled that Bennett is interviewed and then hired by KSU. That way, all those that want to get rid of Bennett and go out and hire the next great F.A Dry would have just such an opportunity. (Sarcasm off).
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:31 am

White Helmet wrote:Now my question do Copeland and Turner have any irons in the fire incase PB does leave? Do we have a contingency plan or are we gonna be stuck holding our [deleted]? Bennett may not leave but I want to have a plan in case he does not be left 2 months of recruiting season with no coach.


Frankly, I am not worried about this in the least. One, I don't think Bennett goes. If it happens, it will happen quickly after the UTEP game, I suspect. Both Venables and Bennett will be done for the year. They won't decide to interview Bennett in a month. They will do it quickly or not at all.

Second, I think Copeland has some ideas. Lest you forget, going into the Rice game, many people considered Bennett's future very much in doubt. You just dust off the "fire Bennett" plan and rename it the "replace Bennett" plan. Which, btw, is further evidence in my mind that Bennett ain't getting the K-State job.

I know we like to believe the worst about SMU always, and I am guilty of it too. But as for this, whatever happens, happens. If Bennett leaves, we will have the opportunity to get rid of that damn swinging gate formation on extra points.
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Postby BRStang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:47 am

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Frankly, I am not worried about this in the least. One, I don't think Bennett goes. If it happens, it will happen quickly after the UTEP game, I suspect. Both Venables and Bennett will be done for the year. They won't decide to interview Bennett in a month. They will do it quickly or not at all.

Second, I think Copeland has some ideas. Lest you forget, going into the Rice game, many people considered Bennett's future very much in doubt. You just dust off the "fire Bennett" plan and rename it the "replace Bennett" plan. Which, btw, is further evidence in my mind that Bennett ain't getting the K-State job.

I know we like to believe the worst about SMU always, and I am guilty of it too. But as for this, whatever happens, happens. If Bennett leaves, we will have the opportunity to get rid of that damn swinging gate formation on extra points.


Paragraph 1: I am glad for you that you are not worried. But, as a practical matter Bennett cannot interview until after the UTEP game. Furthermore, K-State is not going to simply pull the trigger after only interviewing Bennett. They will want to interview as many qualified and interested candidates as possible, which will include some OCs/DCs at some bowl teams. So, guess what, there probably won't be a decision until January. If Bennett takes the job in January....well, you get the picture.

Paragraph 2: Don't be so sure about anything you wrote here. Copeland is an anti-proactive moron and Bennett's stock has risen significantly since going into the UAB game. Three wins against quality opponents gets attention.

Paragraph 3: Yes, SMU is the poster child for Murphy's law. And losing Bennett is the last thing we need right now. We've finally got some momentum going and positive things are happening. We actually have a reason now to look to "next year." If we lose Bennett at this point, plan for another 3-4 years of feeding on the bottom.

Oh, and I know you probably don't mean to, but please try to stop sounding so condescending in your posts. Thanks, man. :)
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Postby jtstang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:50 am

BRStang wrote:Oh, and I know you probably don't mean to, but please try to stop sounding so condescending in your posts. Thanks, man.

They don't seem at all condescending to me, and if they do to you, my advice would be to steer clear of them rather than try to edit the guy.
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Postby Danny Noonan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:57 am

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Postby Danny Noonan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:59 am

BRStang wrote:SMU Football Blog wrote:

Paragraph 1: I am glad for you that you are not worried. But, as a practical matter Bennett cannot interview until after the UTEP game. Furthermore, K-State is not going to simply pull the trigger after only interviewing Bennett. They will want to interview as many qualified and interested candidates as possible, which will include some OCs/DCs at some bowl teams. So, guess what, there probably won't be a decision until January. If Bennett takes the job in January....well, you get the picture.



KSU will have a decision well before January. If they waited it would be a disaster for recruiting.

If they want to interview assistants or head coaches of bowl teams, they will just go right ahead and do so. It happens every year. Think about how many coaches change jobs each year, and rarely if ever does a coaching search go past December.

Heck, you're an LSU fan aren't you? You hired Saban before he coached in the Citrus for MSU. If he even ended up coaching that game after he took the LSU job.
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Postby BRStang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:00 am

jtstang wrote:

They don't seem at all condescending to me, and if they do to you, my advice would be to steer clear of them rather than try to edit the guy.


If I need advice, I'll call Gardere or V&E, not jtstang. Shouldn't you be authoring some sarcastic post about our win-loss record, anyway?
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Postby jtstang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:05 am

BRStang wrote:Shouldn't you be authoring some sarcastic post about our win-loss record, anyway?

No, but since you've decided to be such an @ss about it, I now find your posts condescending, so take your own advice rather than mine and shut the hell up.
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Postby BRStang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:08 am

jtstang wrote:

No, but since you've decided to be such an @ss about it, I now find your posts condescending, so take your own advice rather than mine and shut the hell up.


Ditto. 8)
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Postby Eddie P » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:11 am

We tend to use Gardere more than V&E but both are excellent firms, in my opinion.
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Postby jtstang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:15 am

No, I won't. Not for a style critic the likes of you.
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Postby BRStang » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:21 am

Danny Noonan wrote:

KSU will have a decision well before January. If they waited it would be a disaster for recruiting.

If they want to interview assistants or head coaches of bowl teams, they will just go right ahead and do so. It happens every year. Think about how many coaches change jobs each year, and rarely if ever does a coaching search go past December.


"Probably" may have been too strong a word to use for January. However, some coaches refuse to publicly reveal their interest in new jobs until after their bowl games. All I'm saying is that if K-State waits until the end of bowl season to tap Bennett, and he's interested, SMU would be in trouble and forced into the "quick fix."

As far as LSU, Saban actually made his decision to leave LSU on Christmas day, and Les Miles wasn't named until MID-JANUARY. Oh, and Petrino was mum during Louisville's bowl game despite all the rumors that he was the leading candidate for the job.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:36 am

BRStang wrote:Paragraph 1: I am glad for you that you are not worried. But, as a practical matter Bennett cannot interview until after the UTEP game. Furthermore, K-State is not going to simply pull the trigger after only interviewing Bennett. They will want to interview as many qualified and interested candidates as possible, which will include some OCs/DCs at some bowl teams. So, guess what, there probably won't be a decision until January. If Bennett takes the job in January....well, you get the picture.


That doesn't really jive with many coaching searches I have seen. Most protracted coaching searches are disasters of the team's own creation and are usually the product of a decent coach being fired quickly; i.e. Nebraska. I think that if K-State is looking for a coach on January 1st, they would consider it a disaster. And even if they are, by then we will know that Bennett is not a candidate.

Paragraph 2: Don't be so sure about anything you wrote here. Copeland is an anti-proactive moron and Bennett's stock has risen significantly since going into the UAB game. Three wins against quality opponents gets attention.

I rip Copeland all the time. But Coeland knew what was going on. He had plenty of opportunities to set the record straight about Bennett's job security and I think he purposely left it up in the air.

Paragraph 3: Yes, SMU is the poster child for Murphy's law. And losing Bennett is the last thing we need right now. We've finally got some momentum going and positive things are happening. We actually have a reason now to look to "next year." If we lose Bennett at this point, plan for another 3-4 years of feeding on the bottom.

You are kind of illustrating my point. As bizaare as it sounds, I would look at Bennett leaving as an opportunity to be taken advantage of. I still think this team has real problems. In four years, Bennett's offense has ranked no better than 90th and is currently sitting at 109th. The defense is statistically average, though I think it is better than that. In four years, I have learned Bennett can coach defense; IMO, the jury is still out on everything else. I won't shed too many tears if he leaves and will still be optimistic next year, possibly moreso.

Oh, and I know you probably don't mean to, but please try to stop sounding so condescending in your posts. Thanks, man. :)

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Postby Hoop Fan » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:45 am

it all depends on how much influence Bill Snyder will keep at K-State. If Snyder has some say so, you guys are vastly underrating the chances that Bennett gets that job. Snyder and others in the know look at SMU and realize what it is and what it was when Bennett came. There would be some resistance from some factions at K-State but probably not as much as one might think. Bennett was very respected up there and became a well known, liked and obviously a sympathetic figure.

I do wonder if Bennett would want to move his new wife back to Manhattan with all of the news it would create and memories there.
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