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by Digetydog » Sun Aug 23, 2015 6:52 am
shadowman wrote:When the dust settles and people settle down, heads, including Briles are going to roll from this. Yes, football is important and Baylor reaped massive rewards from their success...but the power brokers and the ones with the massive amounts of money that ultimately matters don't really care that much about football.
There is about to be a "come to Jesus" meeting down in Waco and several key figures will not come out alive.
The issue is not a "he said/he said" about what they knew about his past, the issue is why such a shoddy internal investigation was done. Some individuals within the University worked backwards, ignoring facts, to find no merit in her claim so he could stay enrolled and on track to take the field. This is the domino that is going to make the whole thing fall.
You nailed it. Acceptingtge kid was a mistake, but the way they reacted to the rape was obscene.
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by Rebel10 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:18 am
Looks like everyone in the media is piling on Baylor. So SMU has a chance to put a beating on them with the distractions.
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by Bergermeister » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:31 am
[quote="friarwolf"] My prediction is that Bennett and some nameless administrator will be sacrificed. [quote] The decision to include Ukwuachu as a cog in the BU defense was not an afterthought. A plan was carefully crafted to cover the butts of the HC and DC from the git-go. All (almost all) of the "what-ifs" were contemplated. IMO, they never fathomed a "guilty" verdict. PB obviously wanted this All-American for his defense. AB wanted the player for the overall success of the team. The buck stops with the head coach. This was not PB's decision. Somebody had to make the decision that Ukwuachu would be a full-fledged member of the Baylor football team. That was the head coach.
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by peruna81 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:34 am
Rebel10 wrote:Looks like everyone in the media is piling on Baylor. So SMU has a chance to put a beating on them with the distractions.
Or BU comes out and absolutely curb-stomps SMU as there focus away from 'transfer-gate'... Hope your prediction comes to pass.
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by footballdad » Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:55 am
shadowman wrote:When the dust settles and people settle down, heads, including Briles are going to roll from this. Yes, football is important and Baylor reaped massive rewards from their success...but the power brokers and the ones with the massive amounts of money that ultimately matters don't really care that much about football.
There is about to be a "come to Jesus" meeting down in Waco and several key figures will not come out alive.
The issue is not a "he said/he said" about what they knew about his past, the issue is why such a shoddy internal investigation was done. Some individuals within the University worked backwards, ignoring facts, to find no merit in her claim so he could stay enrolled and on track to take the field. This is the domino that is going to make the whole thing fall.
Now this is truly funny. Your power brokers with the massive amounts of money are the ones who love football the most, because it strokes their giant egos. How much more money has flowed into the Baylor coffers from the money guys since Briles brought them Big 12 championships, heisman winners, and Top 10 rankings? Why is McLane's name splashed across his shiny new stadium, if he didn't care? Money & power & ego trump the hypocrisy of religious righteousness every time. The fact that the power brokers quickly made that transfer document public, tells you all you need to know. They are in meetings right now trying to figure out how to save their public image, protect Briles, and keep their dreams of a 12-0 season and trip to the Final 4 alive. Certainly not sitting in a prayer pow wow, planning Briles resignation, a public apology, and self imposed sanctions to cripple the golden goose.
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by Dukie » Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:05 am
fifty wrote:The jury did decide. How is this 1% the story that Duke lacrosse was?
Not meaning this in an antagonistic way, but can you explain your thinking? If there's any sort of Duke analogue to this story, it's the Rasheed Sulaimon case.
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by gostangs » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:27 pm
Baylor did not spend ten years getting to this spot to throw Briles out the window at the first sign of trouble. No way is he going to be gone.
Whoever wrote the internal report will be fired. That is all that will happen. That person will get another job immediately as part of a "cone of silence" deal that is already draped over this issue.
In two months it will be a distant memory. Its a shame, since it is clear there was an attempt to white wash his past and get him on the team. Despite their piety, Baylor is willing to sell their soul just as if they were Florida State - no difference at all. Had he not been a total criminal he would have ben starting within a few weeks and probably had a shot at the pros. No recognition at all that Baylor's lack of any standard for an athletes behavior resulted in a young lady's life being forever altered.
Lesson number 2 out of this - ladies be careful where you find yourself late at night. Situations change quickly so don't find yourself alone with someone you don't really trust.
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by Rebel10 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:29 pm
peruna81 wrote:Rebel10 wrote:Looks like everyone in the media is piling on Baylor. So SMU has a chance to put a beating on them with the distractions.
Or BU comes out and absolutely curb-stomps SMU as there focus away from 'transfer-gate'... Hope your prediction comes to pass.
I said has a "chance" not predicting that it will definitely happen. Your scenario could happen as well.
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by Rebel10 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 2:32 pm
gostangs wrote:Whoever wrote the internal report will be fired. That is all that will happen. That person will get another job immediately as part of a "cone of silence" deal that is already draped over this issue.
You mean kind of like we did Ulric. Gotcha. Sounds plausible.
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by gostangs » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:01 pm
yeah - except we weren't looking the either way in order to bring a sexual predator onto campus - which is a bit different.
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by SoCal_Pony » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:07 pm
gostangs wrote:In two months it will be a distant memory. Its a shame, since it is clear there was an attempt to white wash his past and get him on the team. Despite their piety, Baylor is willing to sell their soul just as if they were Florida State - no difference at all.
As much as we like to deride lawyers, it is through lawyers we often get to the truth of matters and its often only through lawyers that effective change occurs. You say in two months this will be a distant memory, I hope not. I'm hoping this girl sues Baylor and as part of her settlement, allows all the gory details about Baylor's role in this to be made public. Can't imagine she would agree to a non-disclosure agreement. Peterson vs Briles in a he-said-she-said?, in depositions we should find out a lot more. I'm also hoping Texas Monthly does a follow-up with the jury to find out why they recommended no jail time. One would think the DA would disqualify Baylor-alum from the jury. This is Texas, a conservative state, this part of the story needs to be told. Oh, and I completely agree with Lesson #2.
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by Rebel10 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:17 pm
gostangs wrote:yeah - except we weren't looking the either way in order to bring a sexual predator onto campus - which is a bit different.
May be a different situation but it is the same tactic. But regarding having sexual predators on campus in general, Pitman and the other kid that that was convicted of rape were on the SMU campus. Just sayin'. We are throwing rocks at Baylor and we might be living in somewhat of a glass house.
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by Rebel10 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:19 pm
SoCal_Pony wrote:gostangs wrote:In two months it will be a distant memory. Its a shame, since it is clear there was an attempt to white wash his past and get him on the team. Despite their piety, Baylor is willing to sell their soul just as if they were Florida State - no difference at all.
As much as we like to deride lawyers, it is through lawyers we often get to the truth of matters and its often only through lawyers that effective change occurs. You say in two months this will be a distant memory, I hope not. I'm hoping this girl sues Baylor and as part of her settlement, allows all the gory details about Baylor's role in this to be made public. Can't imagine she would agree to a non-disclosure agreement. Peterson vs Briles in a he-said-she-said?, in depositions we should find out a lot more. I'm also hoping Texas Monthly does a follow-up with the jury to find out why they recommended no jail time. One would think the DA would disqualify Baylor-alum from the jury. This is Texas, a conservative state, this part of the story needs to be told. Oh, and I completely agree with Lesson #2.
I think he got 180 days in jail.
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by mrydel » Sun Aug 23, 2015 3:25 pm
I believe the jury recommended only probation. Judge gave the jail time.
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by CalallenStang » Sun Aug 23, 2015 5:01 pm
mrydel wrote:I believe the jury recommended only probation. Judge gave the jail time.
I read that the jury recommended 8 years of prison
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