Morris vs Strong

[Digetydog]

let's hope Texas has some success in Big XII play because the last thing we need is for them to give up on Charlie Strong and to come after Chad Morris. I can only imagine how quickly Morris could turn that Texas program around and I think he would very quickly own the state of Texas in recruiting

It really is baffling how Texas struggles at all with the resources and recruiting advantages they have just by existing. At an event before the season where Morris, Sumlin, Kingsbury, Briles and Bailiff all spoke I came away thinking Bailiff would crush it at Texas as well given what he's overcome at Rice.

In hiring coaches, Texas looks to keep the boosters happy instead of hiring great coaches. Texas needed to replace Mack with an offensive mastermind. Instead, they hired a good man with limited on field coaching vision.

If I was AD at UT, I would look hard at Bailiff and Hermann.

[Pony_Law]

This is an over ration. Charlie strong has had 1 real recruiting class (which was top 15 IIRC). I think he is safe this year with the hot seat officially on next year. Strong is dealing with the two problems texas has suffered with since McCoy left 1) players recruited to Texas think they have "made it" and stopped improving/ working hard. This is why they have been mediocre for 6 years and 2) they ahve not found/developed a QB since McCoy. This is largely a product of mismanagement by brown of the QB position. Texas would consistantly recruit a top 5 QB prospect and scare off/ not been interested in the numerous 3/4 star recruits (like RG3, manziel, and luck) who were interested in them. This leads to them constantly starting underclass QB which is a great way to ruin them (Gilbert, Ash, Swoops). USC of the early 2000's is the correct model, tell all the high level recruits that you sit and learn and you can compete to start fo 1 year in your junior or senior season, compete for a national championship, and be a high draft choice into the NFL.

Charlie has solved the first problem, unfortunately it looks like he might not have the time/ patients to correct the second problem.

[LakeHighlandsPony]

I had a Longhorn tell me that Charlie inherited a bigger mess. Whatever. Chad Morris has shown more progress in 1 game than Strong has in 1 year.

[Charleston Pony]

Morris will never be considered for the TU job. That would.d be a very public admission that once again another small, private, Texas school has a better football product than TU. TU's pride would never allow them to admit that all their money and heritage and clout ended up with lowly SMU having the best coach in Texas.

I'm not convinced that would be the case...especially if they could "get back" at A$M by hiring one of their own. Whatever happens will happen. I just want Morris to build a top 10 caliber program at SMU so everyone wants him

[Pony Boss]

Morris will never be considered for the TU job. That would.d be a very public admission that once again another small, private, Texas school has a better football product than TU. TU's pride would never allow them to admit that all their money and heritage and clout ended up with lowly SMU having the best coach in Texas.

I'm not convinced that would be the case...especially if they could "get back" at A$M by hiring one of their own. Whatever happens will happen. I just want Morris to build a top 10 caliber program at SMU so everyone wants him

Agree, so everyone wants him and no one can have him!

[CalallenStang]

Morris will never be considered for the TU job. That would.d be a very public admission that once again another small, private, Texas school has a better football product than TU. TU's pride would never allow them to admit that all their money and heritage and clout ended up with lowly SMU having the best coach in Texas.

Correct.

Chip Kelly will top their list.

[Stallion]

It doesn't look good but I truly think you need to give a Head Coach 3-4 years to turn a program around. I could make a list a mile long of Hall of Fame Coaches that didn't succeed for at least 3 years. But you'd sure like to see a team make at least small steps in the right direction, He should at least be able to manage a 6-6 Bowl at Texas even if he did run half the team off

[Charleston Pony]

Strong is dealing with a much tougher schedule than what Texas has put together in the past. Road opener against a top 10 caliber team and even home games against a much improved Rice team and PAC-12 Cal is not exactly the usual UNT, NMSU, etc... Other than Kansas (in Austin), I don't see any gimmes on their schedule. Will be a tall order for them to win 6 games this year

[Digetydog]

It doesn't look good but I truly think you need to give a Head Coach 3-4 years to turn a program around. I could make a list a mile long of Hall of Fame Coaches that didn't succeed for at least 3 years. But you'd sure like to see a team make at least small steps in the right direction, He should at least be able to manage a 6-6 Bowl at Texas even if he did run half the team off

Although they had a decent season last year, Cougar High had the brains (and balls) to get rid of a "not great" coach. Sadly, SMU didn't cut bait on Junesus when it became clear that he wasn't the answer.

Hopefully, the Horns have the brains to realize that Strong is not a great coach. Smart programs fire a coach a year early. Dumb programs wait until the hole is another year deeper.

While there are some serious issues at QB, Strong hired a B-Team OC who is not known for building around the talent he has. Furthermore, he uses a blocking scheme that exposes weakness on the OL rather than mask them. Basically, he does what he does. Sound familiar? -> June Jones

Btw: in contrast, OU's coach hired A Team OC Lincoln Riley.

[Stallion]

I don't think College Football history supports firing a coach after 2 years-in fact I don't think its very smart after 3 years but at a powerhouse you probably only get 3 years. Its partly should be based on whether a Coach takes over a program that is healthy or whether it is a rebuild. Its debatable whether the UT was a healthy program or whether it was a rebuild-right or wrong Strong treated it as a rebuild because he has run off so many players-that's going to take 3-4 years at most programs-maybe 2-3 years at a place like Texas

[Digetydog]

I don't think College Football history supports firing a coach after 2 years-in fact I don't think its very smart after 3 years but at a powerhouse you probably only get 3 years. Its partly should be based on whether a Coach takes over a program that is healthy or whether it is a rebuild. Its debatable whether the UT was a healthy program or whether it was a rebuild-right or wrong Strong treated it as a rebuild because he has run off so many players-that's going to take 3-4 years at most programs-maybe 2-3 years at a place like Texas

His main problem is not the status of the rebuild. He simply cannot coach offense worth a flip.

From a Longhorn Fan: why wasn't an offense one of the Core Values that Strong spent so much time installing?

[MT_Mustang]

If UT fires Strong early I can't imagine Morris will be a candidate. They'll go for somebody with some serious skins on the wall as a reaction to the Strong hire.

[SoCal_Pony]

If I was AD at UT, I would look hard at Bailiff and Hermann.

If I was UT, I would look hard at its AD.

[JasonB]

UT looked very similar to SMU vs Baylor last season on both sides of the line. They are in a lot of trouble this season.

It is amazing the amount of buyin CM has gotten from SMU players. He came into a laid back atmosphere, and for the most part the players completely bought into the new program. Very few transfers, and a completely different look to the team.

Contrast that to UT, where then had a ton of major transfers before last season and another set this year. And the players obviously haven't bought into the physical program. Just another think to be thankful about with us bringing in CM.

[Rebel10]

Everyone knows Mack ran a loose ship. Strong had to get rid of a bunch of undisciplined criminals. That is the reason for the transfers. He should be given another years considering his first major QB, Shane Buechele, will be there next year. Now his OC might be on the hot seat.