James Madison

[ojaipony]

SMU can't take this team for granted. WE have to play as hard and as well as against TCU. No turnovers, continue to press the opponents D and eliminate secondary coverage lapses.

This ^.

Although I consider it a "must win" our guys can't come out too tight (kinda feel like that's what happened against UNT). Have to be in attack mode early and often. Just win - so they can continue to prove to themselves they can.

[Stallion]

June never laid the ground work for more than a slightly above average G5 program-that's not what we were paying him for -to be average

After seeing the type of planning and effort Morris puts into recruiting-if you can't see that the last staff was not running a quality Division 1A recruiting program then you have no hope of understanding how a successful college football program works

Being a great college coach requires putting an emphasis on recruiting. June's was not worth the money from DAY 1. He didn't stop being a good coach after Arizona St-he never was one in the first place because neither he nor his staff (with exception of Klemm and arguably Reinbold) were doing the other half of their job-recruiting. June is a WAC Lite Coach-that's all he will ever be.

[Mestengo]

I remember sitting at that Memphis hotel bar with his DB coach when I asked him how recruiting was going he just laughed at me said he was too old to recruit

This isn't here say or just an attitude this was reality

[PonySnob]

Hope we come out with the "punch them in the mouth" mentality that we started the Baylor game with.

[JasonB]

June never laid the ground work for more than a slightly above average G5 program-that's not what we were paying him for -to be average

After seeing the type of planning and effort Morris puts into recruiting-if you can't see that the last staff was not running a quality Division 1A recruiting program then you have no hope of understanding how a successful college football program works

Being a great college coach requires putting an emphasis on recruiting. June's was not worth the money from DAY 1. He didn't stop being a good coach after Arizona St-he never was one in the first place because neither he nor his staff (with exception of Klemm and arguably Reinbold) were doing the other half of their job-recruiting. June is a WAC Lite Coach-that's all he will ever be.

I wasn't commenting on the effort he put into recruiting. Obviously, he could have done a LOT more, and obviously, we were paying him to be more than average. And obviously, Morris is doing an awesome job and puts 1000x more into recruiting than June. And I didn't say anything about June being a great college coach. Not once.

In fact, we come to the same conclusion - he had a foundation of average players with a few good ones sprinkled on top. Which is better that what was here under Bennett, and it is something that Morris is going to be able to turn into a bowl team very quickly, and into a double digit win team after a couple of recruiting classes.

For the past 9 months, however, you have been stating ad nauseum that we have below-average recruits here and that this year our football team would be awful because of it. And that just isn't the case.

[Rebel10]

June never laid the ground work for more than a slightly above average G5 program-that's not what we were paying him for -to be average

After seeing the type of planning and effort Morris puts into recruiting-if you can't see that the last staff was not running a quality Division 1A recruiting program then you have no hope of understanding how a successful college football program works

Being a great college coach requires putting an emphasis on recruiting. June's was not worth the money from DAY 1. He didn't stop being a good coach after Arizona St-he never was one in the first place because neither he nor his staff (with exception of Klemm and arguably Reinbold) were doing the other half of their job-recruiting. June is a WAC Lite Coach-that's all he will ever be.

I wasn't commenting on the effort he put into recruiting. Obviously, he could have done a LOT more, and obviously, we were paying him to be more than average. And obviously, Morris is doing an awesome job and puts 1000x more into recruiting than June. And I didn't say anything about June being a great college coach. Not once.

In fact, we come to the same conclusion - he had a foundation of average players with a few good ones sprinkled on top. Which is better that what was here under Bennett, and it is something that Morris is going to be able to turn into a bowl team very quickly, and into a double digit win team after a couple of recruiting classes.

For the past 9 months, however, you have been stating ad nauseum that we have below-average recruits here and that this year our football team would be awful because of it. And that just isn't the case.

That is not true. Bennett's players formed the best O Line. Also Bennett had the best overall group of wr's. When they graduated the team started going downhill. Stop the redactions. June recruited more below average players than average players that is why we have depth problems. Right now Coach Morris is getting the best out of mostly a bunch a below average, average, and a handful of good players which is all coaching. So you can stop the ad nauseum sucking up for JJ and Mason.

[The Falcon]

This is not going to be an easy game.

In 2014 James Madison was 9-4. This year they are 3-0.
They have beaten - Morehead State 56-7; Lehigh 55-17; and Albany 42-28.

When you tell SMU fans that we are playing James Madison - they usually say "Who?"
I predict that we will beat them, but I think they have enough offense to make it
interesting.

[SoCal_Pony]

June never laid the ground work for more than a slightly above average G5 program-that's not what we were paying him for -to be average

After seeing the type of planning and effort Morris puts into recruiting-if you can't see that the last staff was not running a quality Division 1A recruiting program then you have no hope of understanding how a successful college football program works

Being a great college coach requires putting an emphasis on recruiting. June's was not worth the money from DAY 1. He didn't stop being a good coach after Arizona St-he never was one in the first place because neither he nor his staff (with exception of Klemm and arguably Reinbold) were doing the other half of their job-recruiting. June is a WAC Lite Coach-that's all he will ever be.

Thank you for posting this.

tiki did not 'check-out' after a) low attendance for the UCF game, b) ASU, c) his coaching guru being denied a professorship or d) any other lame excuse his defenders offer up.

tiki never checked in.

Stallion - "June was not worth the money from DAY 1"

SO TRUE

[couch 'em]

. Although Bennett certainly had a sprinkling of above average players, his last 3 recruiting classes were rated way, way lower than any of Jones' classes by the recruiting services and the foundation wasn't there.

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This cannot stand without being fact-checked. I'll leave it to Stallion because it'll have to be adjusted totals for apples to apples comparison. Is this remotely accurate?

[Rebel10]

. Although Bennett certainly had a sprinkling of above average players, his last 3 recruiting classes were rated way, way lower than any of Jones' classes by the recruiting services and the foundation wasn't there.

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This cannot stand without being fact-checked. I'll leave it to Stallion because it'll have to be adjusted totals for apples to apples comparison. Is this remotely accurate?

The best OL and receiving group we had was from Bennett. Once Bennett's players graduated the foundation was weakened. No facts to check on that just look at the what happened on the field. One thing you will never get that guy to say is that June and his staff recruited poorly which he did (probably because he has a relationship with some of the June's players and coaches). He will blame it on everything but poor recruiting. It seems like we went through 50 receivers to get a few decent ones that were not Bennett recruits. Hundley was the coach that got Davis and Reed whileMcKnight got fired for even worse recruiting. Bottom line is our foundation was on the Bennett players with a few good players sprinkled in that JJ's staff got.

And don't forget June's statement the year he tried to get the ASU job that there would be a "drop in talent after this year."

June new he had recruited poorly (that's why he admitted the talent drop) and the most of Bennett's foundational players were graduating and he tried to jump ship on a high note.

[Pony Boss]

This is not going to be an easy game.

In 2014 James Madison was 9-4. This year they are 3-0.
They have beaten - Morehead State 56-7; Lehigh 55-17; and Albany 42-28.

When you tell SMU fans that we are playing James Madison - they usually say "Who?"
I predict that we will beat them, but I think they have enough offense to make it
interesting.

Please look at their scores vs FBS a few years back. Even a crappy 4-8 Duke team blew em out. Re-lax.

[mrydel]

Look at our scores in the 80s. We might be in the playoff.

[Pony Boss]

Look at our scores in the 80s. We might be in the playoff.

I referenced the last 4 years, not 30 years ago lol

[mrydel]

Ok. Look at us 4,3,2,1 year ago. See the trend? Do you think we are going to continue to decline? I think a team can improve in 4 years. How about you?

[CA Mustang]

I remember sitting at that Memphis hotel bar with his DB coach when I asked him how recruiting was going he just laughed at me said he was too old to recruit

This isn't here say or just an attitude this was reality

I must have walked up after that comment.