SMU Alum letter to Turner

[gostangs]

Bob is missing some key facts. How can he be informed and say he is not sure if TCU is better academically.? As poor as our team currently is in football, we are closer to them in football than they are to us academically. The SAT average difference is staggering.

I will take 3-4 yrs of athletics fun followed by 2 yrs of no fun every time vs multiple yrs of medicroity. If that is the trade off we have to make then fine by me.

Emory?? That is your target school Bob? Most of the country has never heard of them and never will. You couldn't be more clueless, and I am ashamed you are an alumnus.

By the way, is getting an MBA in one year after you graduate even possible? I call BS.

[JasonB]

Our academic standing right now is much better than it was in the 90s when we were awful at sports.

[JoeKidd]

People like Bob are the problem with our country today and he should be deported to Canada. I will donate to deporting Bob to Canada (Eastern Canada that is, like Quebec...I don't wish him on my Western Canadian friends)

[Lebanese4Life]

Bob is missing some key facts. How can he be informed and say he is not sure if TCU is better academically.? As poor as our team currently is in football, we are closer to them in football than they are to us academically. The SAT average difference is staggering.

I will take 3-4 yrs of athletics fun followed by 2 yrs of no fun every time vs multiple yrs of medicroity. If that is the trade off we have to make then fine by me.

Emory?? That is your target school Bob? Most of the country has never heard of them and never will. You couldn't be more clueless, and I am ashamed you are an alumnus.

By the way, is getting an MBA in one year after you graduate even possible? I call BS.

Lol, how the hell have you not heard of Emory? Top 20 school easily. SMU should be looking to emulate them.

And btw, we are not ranked that much higher than TCU. As per US News, SMU is #61 (tied with Clemson, Purdue, Georgia, Syracuse) and TCU is #82. Last I checked, their business school was on par with the great Cox School of Business.

[PonySnob]

By the way, is getting an MBA in one year after you graduate even possible? I call BS.

SMU did have a one year MBA program in the 80's. Believe it went away around 91 or 92.


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[KWhiz77]

1yr "fast track" MBA program is back. Started May 2015. After Turner reads Bob's idiotic bs letter, he may rethink those 1yr MBA programs...

I will also gladly donate to the "deport Bob" fund as well as take away any affiliation he has with SMU!

[PonySnob]

From former basketball player Greg Kinzer:

As a former SMU basketball player I respectfully disagree with the thought that we need to drop all D-1 sports and move down to D-3. Yes, I am greatly disappointed by the current situation and have been pelted with “funny” Facebook messages, texts and calls from my friends from other schools riding me about our “Special” history. It was not a fun day.
When I decided to go to SMU I had scholarship offers from across the country. Many programs offered me a scholarship that later went on probation that talked bad about SMU based on the death penalty. I chose SMU because of the school, the program, and the coach (well two out of three isn’t bad I guess). I chose SMU because despite the negativity during that era I and many others felt like SMU had a bright future. Would I be wrong now to choose SMU based on the current news on basketball and golf probation?
My freshman year (1989) was the first year that the football team was back playing, and there was excitement in the air. The football team knew that they had zero chance to field a good team that year, but they stepped up, went through that and other subsequent seasons, and survived. Some of those guys are my friends now. Do we throw all that in the trash due to the sins of others in a different sport 27 years later?
Also, why do the other sports have to suffer a self-imposed Death Penalty based on the sins of one program and a previous history? What do I tell my 10 year old daughter – who LOVES volleyball and wants to one day play for the Mustangs volleyball program – if SMU decides to drop everything? “Well, the men’s basketball team did something wrong in 2013 and 2014 so everything was dropped and we moved down to D-3 and our main rival is the Richland Community College Thunderducks…”. How would the SMU Volleyball coach step up and tell her team that they were done playing a D-1 schedule?
Finally, on the thought of having my degree “degraded” in some way….. My education and association with SMU is something that I am very proud of, but it doesn’t define me. When I put my educational history on my resume when looking for my full time job I didn’t worry about what future employers thought of it, nor do I now. In fact, most employers won’t even know that SMU was on probation in 2015-2016 in the near and distant future.
In closing – keep in mind we didn’t have a systematic, multi-year academic fraud situation like UNC is currently sweating. We didn’t have a well-known systematic lack of control like the University of Miami football program a few years ago. And we certainly didn’t have a systematic cover-up of child sex abuse like they did at Penn State. We messed up, and we will pay the price. But to cancel everything – with all due respect I hope you are in the minority opinion.

[Rebel10]

I am hoping that Greg put that on the facebook page that Bob made his comments. Also, I hope someone told Bob that we are ranked higher than TCU academically.

[PonySnob]

I am hoping that Greg put that on the facebook page that Bob made his comments. Also, I hope someone told Bob that we are ranked higher than TCU academically.

Greg did post it there as that's where I saw it.

[gostangs]

Of course I've heard of Emory. Just stating the average joe has not. It's a great school but weak campus life due to no sports.

Check out the difference in TCU vs SMU incoming sat scores. It's huge. They admit basically anyone. And cox is ranked above TCU business by almost all ranking services.

This is embarrassing but that is all it is. Giving up sports is not an option.

[fifty]

SMU puts athletics first.

[Pony ^]

I don't care, give me wins.

[ojaipony]

The reason TCU and Baylor are better schools now is because their applications have gone through the roof - because of athletics.

They still aren't "better"... their student quality is still significantly lower despite the increased applications.

Better meaning better than they were, not better than SMU,

Bingo! Keno! Yahtzee! ALL those 2 schools have are football (and Baylor has some bball to a lesser extent).

[smusportspage]

When did Vanderbilt and Tulane drop d1 sports?

I don't think Bob actually thought this one thru. He might need to reconsider.

[Bergermeister]

Woe is Bob