Cumbie turns down Texas OC job

[Digetydog]

While a guaranteed contract protects their pocketbooks, it doesn't protect their career prospects from a serious failure.
- If he succeeds at his next job (or in his current job), Cumbie gets a HC job as soon as 2017.
- If he fails at UT with Strong, he is looking for a 2017 job with a weak hand.

1) If Strong gets fired after next season, do you really think all of the blame will rest on the OC? He's a young coach and that hardly sounds like a career killing move.
2) $2.5M is far greater than the $700K+ he'll make in FW.

He doesn't have to get "all of the blame" for his career to get hurt by a Strong firing.

Never board a sinking ship: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college ... 2cdcdf3102

[CA Mustang]

While a guaranteed contract protects their pocketbooks, it doesn't protect their career prospects from a serious failure.
- If he succeeds at his next job (or in his current job), Cumbie gets a HC job as soon as 2017.
- If he fails at UT with Strong, he is looking for a 2017 job with a weak hand.

1) If Strong gets fired after next season, do you really think all of the blame will rest on the OC? He's a young coach and that hardly sounds like a career killing move.
2) $2.5M is far greater than the $700K+ he'll make in FW.

He doesn't have to get "all of the blame" for his career to get hurt by a Strong firing.

Never board a sinking ship: http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college ... 2cdcdf3102

It is his career so it is his call. Will be interesting to see where he ends up five years from now.

[CalallenStang]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

[Digetydog]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

True.

The problem with bringing Strong back for 2016 is the fact that the record must improve or he will be fired. While you can always bring in new staff, the best guys have options (and good pay checks). Getting the best guys to join a lame duck staff ...

Unless Cumbie thinks that he can win "now" with Heard, Locksley, or Buechele, taking the job would be a mistake.

[Charleston Pony]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

[Digetydog]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

In addition to not having the "answer" in place at QB, UT starts 2016 with ND (home), UTEP (home), Cal (away), OSU (away), and OU (Dallas). Even if they improve on offense, starting out 2-3 is a real possibility.

While they will probably become bowl eligible with wins over the softer B12 teams, it might take 9 wins to save Strong's job and I don't see how they get to 8.

[sbsmith]

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[CalallenStang]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

It goes both ways. Great offensive coaches can make average QBs look good. As evidence, I offer all of the QBs under Leach at Tech, Trevone Boykin who wasn't great until Meacham arrived at TCU, Chase Clement at Rice who was molded by Tom Herman, and countless others

[vielsiehorsepower]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

It goes both ways. Great offensive coaches can make average QBs look good. As evidence, I offer all of the QBs under Leach at Tech, Trevone Boykin who wasn't great until Meacham arrived at TCU, Chase Clement at Rice who was molded by Tom Herman, and countless others

The beauty of the spread offense

[Digetydog]

What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

It goes both ways. Great offensive coaches can make average QBs look good. As evidence, I offer all of the QBs under Leach at Tech, Trevone Boykin who wasn't great until Meacham arrived at TCU, Chase Clement at Rice who was molded by Tom Herman, and countless others

I agree, but it might take two seasons to get UT on the right track. Since Strong may only have 1 season,

[CalallenStang]

[quote="CalallenStang"]What it tells me is that Cumbie doesn't have confidence that he's the one that can get it done on offense in Austin

good quarterbacks make offensive coaches good; Texas hasn't found "the guy" at QB that can make an OC look like a genius

It goes both ways. Great offensive coaches can make average QBs look good. As evidence, I offer all of the QBs under Leach at Tech, Trevone Boykin who wasn't great until Meacham arrived at TCU, Chase Clement at Rice who was molded by Tom Herman, and countless others

I agree, but it might take two seasons to get UT on the right track. Since Strong may only have 1 season,[/quote]

All I'm saying is that if Cumbie believes in himself he would think he could be the one to do it. Instead he is comfortable staying somewhere that won't even allow him to call plays to avoid potentially being exposed.

[PerunasHoof]

According to ESPN, Tulsa's OC has turned down the job as well.

[RGV Pony]

Horns247 is also reporting that the contract negotiations went south:

Gilbert left Austin under the impression he had a three-year deal from Texas in the range 650,000 to 750,000 per year for three years, according to sources close to the situation. However, Strong had only offered Gilbert a two-year contract and the miscommunication changed negotiations completely.

[CalallenStang]

If Strong's employment future is preventing Texas from hiring a decent staff, they should clear up the future immediately

[footballdad]

Herman already signed his extension. Strong will be at Texas for 2 more years, then Herman will break the bank and save the day at UT.