SB Nation: SMU is thriving in spite of post-season ban

[PerunasHoof]

Please tell me what else anyone could infer from this:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80184

Someone said he didn't want to appeal and you said that was the spin, which means you are stating he wanted to appeal. That's not me "twisting it", that's is exactly what you are implying.[/quote

If that what you want to infer fine and that very well could have been the spin. Believe what you want, you are entitled to you position.

And you are entitled to yours, but you should state things as your opinion, rather than facts. If you state there is a conspiracy and the school is spinning things, then back it up.

[Rebel10]

Please tell me what else anyone could infer from this:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=80184

Someone said he didn't want to appeal and you said that was the spin, which means you are stating he wanted to appeal. That's not me "twisting it", that's is exactly what you are implying.[/quote

If that what you want to infer fine and that very well could have been the spin. Believe what you want, you are entitled to you position.

And you are entitled to yours, but you should state things as your opinion, rather than facts. If you state there is a conspiracy and the school is spinning things, then back it up.

I said at least is the spin, which to me means it might be true, might not be true. And it very well could have been. Fact is that we were going to lose ticket sales if the ban were delayed. That as I have directly stated before may have been the determining factor.

[JasonB]

[quote="Rebel10]
I said at least is the spin. And it very well could have been. Fact is that we were going to lose ticket sales if the ban were delayed. That as I have directly stated before may have been the determining factor.[/quote]

So that is a fact now? That if we had delayed the ban and were competing for a national championship that it would have a negative impact on ticket sales?

[Rebel10]

[quote="Rebel10]
I said at least is the spin. And it very well could have been. Fact is that we were going to lose ticket sales if the ban were delayed. That as I have directly stated before may have been the determining factor.[/quote]

So that is a fact now? That if we had delayed the ban and were competing for a national championship that it would have a negative impact on ticket sales?[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]

That is what the poster that was close to the situation admitted in a post. That it could have had a impact on tickets sales for the next year. They may not have wanted to take the risk. But you have lied and twisted things so much supporting June Jones I don't even know why you would get in this conversation. Anyway, when the sanctions were announced there were people trying to cancel tickets then and that was for this year but they were not allowed to do so because they had already paid their money.

[Stallion]

Guess what? Lost Ticket sales SHOULD be an extremely important factor-among others. Those top recruits won't be awed by empty seats. You can't maintain the energy in the program without ticket paying customers. Its part of the synergy that helps recruiting

[Rebel10]

Guess what? Lost Ticket sales SHOULD be an extremely important factor-among others. Those top recruits won't be awed by empty seats. You can't maintain the energy in the program without ticket paying customers. Its part of the synergy that helps recruiting

I will not argue with that. They also may need the revenue to pay off the Moody renovations did not not want to disrupt any percentage of revenue that could come into the program.

[RGV Pony]

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Longhorns-bum ... s-41873461

[mustangxc]

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Longhorns-bummed-by-attendance-issues-41873461

Just as that is used against us in football, we need to use it against other schools in basketball.

[mathman]

Let me ask a question here. If I recall correctly, when the sanctions came out, it was noted that when the violation was "academic fraud" that it was automatically a one or two year ban. The rest of any punishments would be arbitrary (scholarship loss, coach suspension, etc.) If that is true, I don't see the point in appealing that part of the sanctions. It apparently is set in stone. Is this true or not?


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[gostangs]

We need to use it big time. A&M and Baylor attendance sucks also. No energy in any big 12 arena except Kansas.

Our building's energy is top 10 in the country - higher when it is a big game.

[fan]

I am saying if he not agree I don't think he would publicly contradict the administration especially since they did not fire him. So I don't think you can gauge either way by his statements imo. If someone feels different fine.

Got news, in a room full of LB, Turner and AD boy, LB carries the big stick. He's gonna say whatever he wants, whenever he wants to, which has actually been a criticism I've had for the guy. His NBA takes over the past several years, all while manning our helm, have been polarizing at best, moronic at worst. The day he was hired, he was tackling Michael Jordan in the media, and its basically never stopped. Whether he's poking the Sixers rebuild strategy or addressing advanced stats, he's not afraid.

You do your best to stop the bleeding and make sure you don't bottom out. Thats what SMU has done and these aren't 'up for debate' topics. Katz is trying to capture eyes and ears w/a good story brewing. He's smart enough to realize 90% of his listeners/readers have no idea the junior and frosh class would have transferred out. He knows this, but that doesn't make for a good story does it? Unless,of course, you have an axe to grind and want to say we sold out the seniors. We didn't, the NCAA did. If they made their decision, when a viable transfer was possible, the seniors could have played in the postseason somewhere. Instead, they were stuck here and we had to preserve the integrity of the roster/program moving forward.

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This. All correct and I'm not worried about the NBA stuff. It's history and he has more good than bad in the NBA. Current guys that I've talked with are not concerned in the least with his bit.

[Rebel10]

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Longhorns-bummed-by-attendance-issues-41873461

Just as that is used against us in football, we need to use it against other schools in basketball.

True to some degree. Just would not use it when we play a team that is not that well known. As Nic said in his interview that he wished people would show up like Michigan game at every game.

[Puckhead48E]

I agree with Katz on this one.

UConn got hit with sanction early enough for everyone to transfer but no one did.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/sport ... .html?_r=0

I like it...compare the impact of a potential 1 season postseason ban with transfers allowed at SMU against a similar situation at UCONN. Makes perfect sense...no exodus of players. Same conference. Same...oh wait, UCONN was a perennial tournament team with multiple championships in the past 10 years. That is a perfect comparison to us in basketball.

[Rebel10]

I agree with Katz on this one.

UConn got hit with sanction early enough for everyone to transfer but no one did.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/sport ... .html?_r=0

I like it.

Thanks. If you find a mass exodus after a ban where the players could leave please let me know.

[Rebel10]

when it is a big game.

Definitely need to improve on that when it is not a big game.