Multiple Sources: A&M looking to fire Sumlin

[SoCal_Pony]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

[CalallenStang]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

[SMU 86]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

But hasn't UT had more money?

[CalallenStang]

[quote="1983 Cotton Bowl"]A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

But hasn't UT had more money?[/quote]

I would bet it has been pretty even all told over the last 45 years

[Digetydog]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

Don't they claim a fake National title somewhere in there?

[CalallenStang]

[quote="1983 Cotton Bowl"]A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

Don't they claim a fake National title somewhere in there?[/quote]

Way back in the 30s

[Rebel10]

I think Sumlin like Les Miles will stay another year.

[Topper]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period[/quote

But UT has had more talent, more money, more of everything than A&M. They have been loaded with the best talent in this region since DKR came on board. Even DKR under-performed for the talent he had. He started losing because of scholarship limits and his inability to connect with black players. Suddenty the SWC was integrated and he couldn't recruit all of the talent. Those guys started playing elsewhere and lining up against the 'horns on Saturdays. Strong inherited at least a couple of No. 1 recruiting classes from Mack but can't crack .500.

[SoCal_Pony]

A&M is amazing. For many years now, I have watched them do less with more than any other athletics department in the country. And I know that goes back well before my time too.

UT with only 1 NC in 45 years gets my vote.

A&M has none in a much longer period

You have to be joking. UT is the flagship school of this state.

Let's see, almost 1/3rd of all college football players come from Texas or Florida, with California in a kinda distant 3rd place. USC competes against UCLA, Florida has Florida St & Miami, UT has the Aggies. All these schools have excellent academic reputations sans Fl St. One could argue that UT is located in the best city, probably a stronger argument could be made that A&M is located in the least desirable city. Plus A&M has its Aggie Corp reputation which is a negative IMO.

So how many NC's have USC, UF, FL St & Miami won in the past 45 years? 15???

UT has 1.

[leopold]

It's UT that has by far underachieved for generations.

- They have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country.
- They exist in arguably the top city in the country (and lets face it, Austin is pretty cool)
- They are the flagship school for arguably the most rabid football state in the country
- They make more money than any other program in the country
- They now have their own television network, something that could be used to their advantage if they knew what they hell to do with it
- I'd argue they've had their own conference twice now
- Unlike USC and Miami they have never had to compete with pro teams in their city in any major sport
- ESPN currently has Texas as the single best job in the country.

And yet, with all this and more, UT consistently underachieves. If not for Vince Young they wouldn't have a single NC in half a century.

A&M and that hell-hole the exist in should not have EVER been competitive, but they've found a way.

[Digetydog]

It's UT that has by far underachieved for generations.

- They have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country.
- They exist in arguably the top city in the country (and lets face it, Austin is pretty cool)
- They are the flagship school for arguably the most rabid football state in the country
- They make more money than any other program in the country
- They now have their own television network, something that could be used to their advantage if they knew what they hell to do with it
- I'd argue they've had their own conference twice now
- Unlike USC and Miami they have never had to compete with pro teams in their city in any major sport
- ESPN currently has Texas as the single best job in the country.

And yet, with all this and more, UT consistently underachieves. If not for Vince Young they wouldn't have a single NC in half a century.

A&M and that hell-hole the exist in should not have EVER been competitive, but they've found a way.

If Colt McCoy hadn't been injured in the national title game, they probably have 2 titles.

[East Coast Mustang]

It's UT that has by far underachieved for generations.

- They have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country.
- They exist in arguably the top city in the country (and lets face it, Austin is pretty cool)
- They are the flagship school for arguably the most rabid football state in the country
- They make more money than any other program in the country
- They now have their own television network, something that could be used to their advantage if they knew what they hell to do with it
- I'd argue they've had their own conference twice now
- Unlike USC and Miami they have never had to compete with pro teams in their city in any major sport
- ESPN currently has Texas as the single best job in the country.

And yet, with all this and more, UT consistently underachieves. If not for Vince Young they wouldn't have a single NC in half a century.

A&M and that hell-hole the exist in should not have EVER been competitive, but they've found a way.

If Colt McCoy hadn't been injured in the national title game, they probably have 2 titles.

If my aunt had a pecker she'd be my uncle

[leopold]

It's UT that has by far underachieved for generations.

- They have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country.
- They exist in arguably the top city in the country (and lets face it, Austin is pretty cool)
- They are the flagship school for arguably the most rabid football state in the country
- They make more money than any other program in the country
- They now have their own television network, something that could be used to their advantage if they knew what they hell to do with it
- I'd argue they've had their own conference twice now
- Unlike USC and Miami they have never had to compete with pro teams in their city in any major sport
- ESPN currently has Texas as the single best job in the country.

And yet, with all this and more, UT consistently underachieves. If not for Vince Young they wouldn't have a single NC in half a century.

A&M and that hell-hole the exist in should not have EVER been competitive, but they've found a way.

If Colt McCoy hadn't been injured in the national title game, they probably have 2 titles.

Uh huh. Which means they would have underachieved by incredible proportions, not the epic ones they have since he was hurt.

[1983 Cotton Bowl]

It's UT that has by far underachieved for generations.

- They have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country.
- They exist in arguably the top city in the country (and lets face it, Austin is pretty cool)
- They are the flagship school for arguably the most rabid football state in the country
- They make more money than any other program in the country
- They now have their own television network, something that could be used to their advantage if they knew what they hell to do with it
- I'd argue they've had their own conference twice now
- Unlike USC and Miami they have never had to compete with pro teams in their city in any major sport
- ESPN currently has Texas as the single best job in the country.

And yet, with all this and more, UT consistently underachieves. If not for Vince Young they wouldn't have a single NC in half a century.

A&M and that hell-hole the exist in should not have EVER been competitive, but they've found a way.

UT Austin does not have the largest endowment of any FBS school in the country. Not even close.

Other than that, your point is well taken. But I still have to go with A&M. If we're counting national championships only, then sure, UT has way under-performed. Then again, other than Alabama, Miami, and (going back a ways) Notre Dame, who hasn't underperformed by that metric. Georgia, Florida, Florida State, and Ohio State also jump to mind. But if you broaden it a little and look at conference championships, major bowl appearances, and Top 25 rankings, UT has done pretty well over the years.

A&M, on the other hand, with all the enormous time, energy, and resources they pour into football, has precious few of any of those things. They are a perineal 8-4 team. . . Middle of the pack year in and year out (Manziel year 1 excluded).

[leopold]

Well, we can argue about endowment (and who DOESN'T love to compare endowments?!)

but WSJ says Texas is No. 2 behind Harvard, which makes them #1 in FBS, and, as you say, it ain't even close

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/01/ ... -rankings/