Question for Stallion

by **expony18** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:44 pm

Ive seen some positive posts about next years class, but it seems pretty weak based on "stars." Whats the comparison of 2*, 3*, 4*, and 5* nationally with the June Jones years?

by **smupony94** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:47 pm

Hi 18

by **expony18** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:48 pm

smupony94 wrote:Hi 18

Hi

by **Stallion** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:05 pm

I've gone into more detail a bunch but basically you should ignore Rivals new restrictive ratings. As of about a week ago there were only about 152 or so 3+ stars in Texas. In June's best years there were about 275-290 3+ stars in Texas. So basically, you can't compare stars through different years unless you define what a particular star level really means in that particular year. SMU recruiting class has more offers, more P5 offers and the highest percentage of players with P5 offers than any class since the Death Penalty-and it isn't even close. This is an outstanding class especially for a 2-10 team. Coincidently, there is one website that grades classes by number and quality of offers and not surprisingly they are detecting the surge in SMU recruiting ranking our Class No. 43 in the nation

http://www.rankbyoffers.com/2016fbteams/

You also can see the affect by comparing other services with Rivals;

Rivals: 3 3 Stars
Scout: 12 3 Stars (Scout also restricted 3+ Stars but not as much)
247Sports: 13 3 Stars
ESPN: 18 3 stars

We are trying to keep an accurate running count on all offers-see this link and note P5 schools are still coming after many of our recruits even many who Rivals only ranks as 2 Stars

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79588

by **mrydel** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:10 pm

One other thing that may make a difference. The Rivals guy here in Arkansas promotes the Arkansas athletes he feels are worthy to be upgraded. He presents a case with the reasons they should be raised based on performance, offers, etc.

Is our Rivals guy doing that for our recruits?

by **Stallion** » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:18 pm

BTW 75% of SMU recruits have P5 offers which is unprecedented in post DP SMU recruiting classes. TCU turned their program around by signing about 65% of its recruits with P5 offer over a consistent 10 year period 1998-2008. One thing to consider though I admit is that the AAC has several emerging programs like UH, USF who are always recruiting pretty darn well. UH could sign one of the best G5/non-BCS classes ever. We may not to recruit better than TCU did because the AAC is emerging as the 6th best conference

by **Big Hoss** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:02 am

My first thought when you mentioned our class at #43 was that TCU built up their program on classes ranked around there. Ready to get this class locked down. Less than a month away.

by **Pony Boss** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:56 am

Stallion wrote:BTW 75% of SMU recruits have P5 offers which is unprecedented in post DP SMU recruiting classes. TCU turned their program around by signing about 65% of its recruits with P5 offer over a consistent 10 year period 1998-2008. One thing to consider though I admit is that the AAC has several emerging programs like UH, USF who are always recruiting pretty darn well. UH could sign one of the best G5/non-BCS classes ever. We may not to recruit better than TCU did because the AAC is emerging as the 6th best conference

Aren't you contradicting yourself when you say SMU is pulling in a class with 75% P5 offers and TCU pulled classes with 65%...help me understand what you mean that SMU may never recruit as good as they did? What does theAAC being the 6th conf have to do with that?

by **footballdad** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 8:59 am

Pony Boss wrote:
Stallion wrote:BTW 75% of SMU recruits have P5 offers which is unprecedented in post DP SMU recruiting classes. TCU turned their program around by signing about 65% of its recruits with P5 offer over a consistent 10 year period 1998-2008. One thing to consider though I admit is that the AAC has several emerging programs like UH, USF who are always recruiting pretty darn well. UH could sign one of the best G5/non-BCS classes ever. We may not to recruit better than TCU did because the AAC is emerging as the 6th best conference

Aren't you contradicting yourself when you say SMU is pulling in a class with 75% P5 offers and TCU pulled classes with 65%...help me understand what you mean that SMU may never recruit as good as they did? What does theAAC being the 6th conf have to do with that?

He means its all relative. The entire AAC has stepped up their game, especially Houston & USF. Hard to become the 'TCU of 98-2008', when 2 or 3 schools in our own conference are recruiting better than SMU. Close the gap on Houston & USF, focus on winning the AAC championship, and everything else will follow.

Post DP, and comparisons to June are irrelevant, unless of course the goal is be the 3rd or 4th best team in the AAC?

by **TidePony** » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:43 am

My friends that are high school football coaches claim that we have 4 or 5 major play makers in this group. None of them remember (30 and 40 year olds) SMU with a better class.