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Postby hoopmanx » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:26 pm

If program rambling isn't your thing, next thread.

1) Nic Moore is a legend of the highest order, clutch beyond compare and deserves his number raised. This program is alive and LB and his Dean Smith-isms are going a long way towards creating sustainable culture. The next step is family, which is rarely achieved in non-blue blood circles. You get to family by honoring your best, giving them their due and respect. To that end, honor Ira Terrell first and then get Nic up there.

2) Much has been made of our offensive woes, when Nic hits the pine. Is Shake a PG? Why does ball movement slow? Simply, Shake is a PG and was recruited as such. In fact, LB will never personally recruit a PG like Nic ever again. For all his college greatness, LB wants length and prototype League 1s. We've seen it time and again, Josiah/Mudiay/Shake even barefield and to a degree Aussie Tom and Dashawn. Nic is the aberration, not the norm. Now that we've established that...

3) Our style of ball w Nic has been beautiful. Sharing and getting the best shot, bottom line. It's also been very collegiate and LBs a pro. W/Shake running the show, we now get to see what LB really looks like. Are we so system oriented we don't adapt scheme to our personnel, or do we play differently a year from now?

4) Nic, for all his greatness, can't get in the lane and finish at the rim w/any real consistency. Ultimately, I believe that is goal. It's the core Coaching philosophy of much of LBs tree. LB has varied historically based on personnel. Next year, under Shake, we have a PG that
can get in the lane at will. He has a floater etc. Hes also adept at finding open shooters. So, load the arc w/snipers. Meanwhile, you have to unclog the lane. More face up bigs that board and D. Less worry about dumping into skill less blocks. Meanwhile, our roster now has more shooters and face up bigs and pick and pop options. Coincidence?

5) Kapita just took the ACT, we'll know by end of month. We may well lead for RJ White. Lastly, stop sweating APR. we have considerably more wiggle room than folks suggest and will probably get more back on appeal...see Frazier. This, you can take a chance on Kapita or Weathers who by all accounts can't spell SMu
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Re: The Real

Postby Smulaw90 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:12 pm

I would love to see Ira's Jersey raised, and a banner that has #11, #23, #5 all listed on it as a homage to the "new beginning/seniors" for this year. For their own reasons, they should be recognized (IMO).
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Re: The Real

Postby EastStang » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:22 pm

Nic is the grease that makes the motor run right now. Without him we look lost.
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Re: The Real

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:30 pm

EastStang wrote:Nic is the grease that makes the motor run right now. Without him we look lost.


W/o him, we're still playing Nics style, when w should be playing Shakes. For us to be as good as we can be next year, that needs to change
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Re: The Real

Postby 1983 Cotton Bowl » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:37 pm

Great thread! Very interested to see what big or bigs we can reel in between now and April.
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Re: The Real

Postby skyscraper » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:47 pm

Good post. As our offense was stalling out last night, I started wondering what next year would look like. Very interested to see if we tweak our style of play with Shake running the ship fulltime.
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Re: The Real

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:15 pm

nic is that rare example.please of the wrong type of player for the philosophy of the program, but he's so damn good, it works anyway. The Answer was that way too w LB.

W/Shake, snipers, and face up 4s, the style has to change some.
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Re: The Real

Postby JasonB » Thu Feb 11, 2016 3:21 pm

Semi and Ben are more of the face up 4 with a power drive from the perimeter. That is what we are moving to. Even at the 5 have to be able to spread the floor a little. We will move to a wing 4 instead of a double post.
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Re: The Real

Postby hoopmanx » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:11 pm

JasonB wrote:Semi and Ben are more of the face up 4 with a power drive from the perimeter. That is what we are moving to. Even at the 5 have to be able to spread the floor a little. We will move to a wing 4 instead of a double post.


If we do, our offensive woes post nic, start to fade away. froling has range to 3 and IF Kapita qualifies, he's bigger and a better mid range shooter than either Ben or Markus
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Re: The Real

Postby LA_Mustang » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:47 pm

hoopmanx wrote:If program rambling isn't your thing, next thread.

1) Nic Moore is a legend of the highest order, clutch beyond compare and deserves his number raised. This program is alive and LB and his Dean Smith-isms are going a long way towards creating sustainable culture. The next step is family, which is rarely achieved in non-blue blood circles. You get to family by honoring your best, giving them their due and respect. To that end, honor Ira Terrell first and then get Nic up there.

2) Much has been made of our offensive woes, when Nic hits the pine. Is Shake a PG? Why does ball movement slow? Simply, Shake is a PG and was recruited as such. In fact, LB will never personally recruit a PG like Nic ever again. For all his college greatness, LB wants length and prototype League 1s. We've seen it time and again, Josiah/Mudiay/Shake even barefield and to a degree Aussie Tom and Dashawn. Nic is the aberration, not the norm. Now that we've established that...

3) Our style of ball w Nic has been beautiful. Sharing and getting the best shot, bottom line. It's also been very collegiate and LBs a pro. W/Shake running the show, we now get to see what LB really looks like. Are we so system oriented we don't adapt scheme to our personnel, or do we play differently a year from now?

4) Nic, for all his greatness, can't get in the lane and finish at the rim w/any real consistency. Ultimately, I believe that is goal. It's the core Coaching philosophy of much of LBs tree. LB has varied historically based on personnel. Next year, under Shake, we have a PG that
can get in the lane at will. He has a floater etc. Hes also adept at finding open shooters. So, load the arc w/snipers. Meanwhile, you have to unclog the lane. More face up bigs that board and D. Less worry about dumping into skill less blocks. Meanwhile, our roster now has more shooters and face up bigs and pick and pop options. Coincidence?

5) Kapita just took the ACT, we'll know by end of month. We may well lead for RJ White. Lastly, stop sweating APR. we have considerably more wiggle room than folks suggest and will probably get more back on appeal...see Frazier. This, you can take a chance on Kapita or Weathers who by all accounts can't spell SMu

1) most clutch player I've ever seen at SMU. Every time he shoots the ball late I have no doubt it is going in. One of the best to ever lace it up for SMU.

2) I'm hoprful Semi will emerge as a big time scoring threat. Shake, Sterling, Semi, Ben and Froling/Kapita will be nice.

3) this will be the most interesting development next season. Can't wait to see how LB handles it.

4) I'm not sure how realistic our chance is at landing Young but for some reason I'm optimistic. He is an absolute stud. Having a backcourt of Shake, Young, Wilson, Foster and McDowell would be elite.

5) good to know about the APR. let's just hope Kapita does well on the ACT. I'll take a frontcourt of Ben, Semi, Froling & Kapita.
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Re: The Real

Postby mrydel » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:23 pm

Do we know who took the ACT for Kapita?

(I am just kidding NCAA spies.)
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Re: The Real

Postby PonyTime » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:47 pm

mrydel wrote:Do we know who took the ACT for Kapita?

(I am just kidding NCAA spies.)


This guy probably knows...

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Re: The Real

Postby gostangs » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:09 pm

Hey Hoop - honest question. Do you have a view on what is going on with Ben Moore? He has basically disappeared the last three games, and he has been one of our most reliable 14 pt a game guys until now. he looked out of it last night more than anyone I thought.
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Re: The Real

Postby 1983 Cotton Bowl » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:51 pm

No inside info, but my gut tells me Ben is hurting pretty bad. At one point last night they took him back to the locker room briefly for evaluation.
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Re: The Real

Postby JasonB » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:51 pm

1983 Cotton Bowl wrote:No inside info, but my gut tells me Ben is hurting pretty bad. At one point last night they took him back to the locker room briefly for evaluation.


They didn't take him back, just to the tunnel. He did something to his knee when he fell. Even after he was coming back in he kept moving it around. I think MK, Tolbert, and Ben have all been fighting through some stuff.

Keep in mind that USF zoned us the whole game and we killed it by moving the ball. Against man, which Temple played, when you are beat up it is going to show. MK seems to be coming back to health, but neither BM or JT have the explosion they had early in the season.
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