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Re: The Real

Postby 78pony » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:10 pm

hoopmanx wrote:If program rambling isn't your thing, next thread.

1) Nic Moore is a legend of the highest order, clutch beyond compare and deserves his number raised. This program is alive and LB and his Dean Smith-isms are going a long way towards creating sustainable culture. The next step is family, which is rarely achieved in non-blue blood circles. You get to family by honoring your best, giving them their due and respect. To that end, honor Ira Terrell first and then get Nic up there.

2) Much has been made of our offensive woes, when Nic hits the pine. Is Shake a PG? Why does ball movement slow? Simply, Shake is a PG and was recruited as such. In fact, LB will never personally recruit a PG like Nic ever again. For all his college greatness, LB wants length and prototype League 1s. We've seen it time and again, Josiah/Mudiay/Shake even barefield and to a degree Aussie Tom and Dashawn. Nic is the aberration, not the norm. Now that we've established that...

3) Our style of ball w Nic has been beautiful. Sharing and getting the best shot, bottom line. It's also been very collegiate and LBs a pro. W/Shake running the show, we now get to see what LB really looks like. Are we so system oriented we don't adapt scheme to our personnel, or do we play differently a year from now?

4) Nic, for all his greatness, can't get in the lane and finish at the rim w/any real consistency. Ultimately, I believe that is goal. It's the core Coaching philosophy of much of LBs tree. LB has varied historically based on personnel. Next year, under Shake, we have a PG that
can get in the lane at will. He has a floater etc. Hes also adept at finding open shooters. So, load the arc w/snipers. Meanwhile, you have to unclog the lane. More face up bigs that board and D. Less worry about dumping into skill less blocks. Meanwhile, our roster now has more shooters and face up bigs and pick and pop options. Coincidence?

5) Kapita just took the ACT, we'll know by end of month. We may well lead for RJ White. Lastly, stop sweating APR. we have considerably more wiggle room than folks suggest and will probably get more back on appeal...see Frazier. This, you can take a chance on Kapita or Weathers who by all accounts can't spell SMu


Hoop, thanks a ton. That is commentary worth it's weight in gold. A true pleasure to read and consider. Thanks again.
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Re: The Real

Postby smusic 00 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:11 am

What a great post, thank you. Sounds like we may start slow next year but fire it up through conference as we come into the 'real' LB system. It all looks rosy from my seat.
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Re: The Real

Postby SMUstangs22 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:55 am

The talent reload will be very interesting. Just looking at star ratings (I know, not perfect) there will be more talent on next years team than we have had. We just have to utilize it.
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Re: The Real

Postby sadderbudweiser » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:59 am

We are in the closing chapter of SMU being "Nic's team." A damn shame it won't end on a much earned and deserved tourney run. It's been an incredible three year chapter that has changed SMU hoops to the very core. We are now a different program than EVER before. We're a "somebody" in college hoops.

Here comes chapter two of the BOOK OF LB.
It remains to be seen how it plays out. Sustainable top notch program? Perennial power?
But the good news is that it's a great book and it's not going out of print any time soon.

And much of how it progresses MAY be out of LB's hands ( the conference dating game, football's success, LB's health/Jank's future).

I look forward to the next chapter.

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Re: The Real

Postby jimhagle » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:48 pm

Anyone who has watched Dashawn play should know he should be the point guard for next year. He is very quick and explosive unlike Shake. And he can get into the lane like Nic. Shake is a wing guy for the most part who can bomb away or drive. And he can fill in at point but we still need another true point guard I feel.
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Re: The Real

Postby PonyFan32 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:18 pm

jimhagle wrote:Anyone who has watched Dashawn play should know he should be the point guard for next year. He is very quick and explosive unlike Shake. And he can get into the lane like Nic. Shake is a wing guy for the most part who can bomb away or drive. And he can fill in at point but we still need another true point guard I feel.


I think you sell Shake's potential a little short. I know he has yet to prove this year that he can be the lead PG full-time, but i don't agree that he is not quick or explosive. He has gotten into the lane this year a lot for a guy who doesn't full time handle the ball.

That being said, I would be pretty happy if DaShawn were able to come in and fill the PG role.
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Re: The Real

Postby Zman89 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:58 pm

After reading hoop's post I agree with some and disagree with other parts of it. Nic may not be a prototypical PG by some standards. The only thing he lacks is that he's not 6' 5" but in his case he doesn't have to be. I think what you guys miss is the fact when Nic has the ball he's thinking at least 3 moves ahead. There's a reason he went and played for Kansas and started during the University Games. LB did not recruit Nic he came with Jank. I think Shake will be fine at PG next year. Throughout the whole time I've been on PF I've seen comments that was on point and some not on point. A good example would be a Parade All American in football from Indiana would probably be 2nd or 3rd team all state in Tex. A Parade All American in basketball from Tex would be 2nd team all state in Indiana. Obviously there's exceptions to the rule in both scenarios. The future looks bright for Mustang bball. Make no mistake Nic Moore is a PG.
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Re: The Real

Postby sadderbudweiser » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:40 pm

Zman89 wrote:After reading hoop's post I agree with some and disagree with other parts of it. Nic may not be a prototypical PG by some standards. The only thing he lacks is that he's not 6' 5" but in his case he doesn't have to be. I think what you guys miss is the fact when Nic has the ball he's thinking at least 3 moves ahead. There's a reason he went and played for Kansas and started during the University Games. LB did not recruit Nic he came with Jank. I think Shake will be fine at PG next year. Throughout the whole time I've been on PF I've seen comments that was on point and some not on point. A good example would be a Parade All American in football from Indiana would probably be 2nd or 3rd team all state in Tex. A Parade All American in basketball from Tex would be 2nd team all state in Indiana. Obviously there's exceptions to the rule in both scenarios. The future looks bright for Mustang bball. Make no mistake Nic Moore is a PG.



and hopefully he gets to continue at the next level.

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Re: The Real

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Re: The Real

Postby smusic 00 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:07 pm

Zman, I hope you hang around here after Nic moves on to bigger things.
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The Real

Postby PonySnob » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:51 pm

"Moody's renovation coincided with Brown's rebuilding project. The Mustangs played home games in Garland during Brown's first season and the first two months of his second year at SMU."

Seem to remember Larry's first year being played (2012-2013) in the old Moody


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Re: The Real

Postby smusic 00 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:42 pm

The last couple games of lb's first year were at Garland as a test run and so they could get construction going early.
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Re: The Real

Postby smusic 00 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:43 pm

Not that anyone noticed since there were less than 500 season tickets sold.
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Re: The Real

Postby Zman89 » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:58 pm

smusic 00 wrote:Zman, I hope you hang around here after Nic moves on to bigger things.

I will.
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Re: The Real

Postby MFFL02 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:20 am

load the arc w/snipers.


If Shake is driving, what snipers do we have on the arc?
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