Jr College / Xfers Credit Hours

[Stallion]

that's what I asked SantaStang for Christmas!

[SMU Football Blog]

The problems are twofold.

First, I think there is rigidity on the part of the school to accept some credits and not others. As I recall, we had the former starting Northwestern QB (name escapes me) on campus for a semester and he was interested in playing for SMU. He transferred back because it was not going to be possible for him to get on scholarship based on the transferable hours. This was due in part because Northwestern is on a trimester system and SMU is on a semester system.

This brings up an important point. We are not talking admitting these kids. We are talking admitting these kids with the requisite number of transferable hours to allow them to qualify for a scholarship under NCAA rules. SMU has no problem admitting junior college students. They do it regularly. The problem is these football players don’t have the sufficient transferable hours to get a scholarship. So, while they may be able to get into SMU, unless they get a scholarship, they are not coming to SMU. Again, we are not saying SMU doesn’t accept junior college transfers as a rule and we are trying to get an exception for football players. SMU does accept junior college transfers. We are talking about making it easier for junior college students that transfer to get athletic scholarships.

Second, SMU can’t just say, “OK, we accept all of your credits.” If a kid takes Medieval Botany at X University and transfers to SMU and SMU does not offer a course similar to Medieval Botany, then the credits are not transferable. I believe to do otherwise would violate NCAA rules. So the issue really is one of adding to the curriculum or “liberally” accepting credits as being similar to courses being taken by the transferees. I think the latter is what is being attempted now. Obviously, at best, the results are mixed.

One question I have is whether changing “wellness” back to a for-credit course rather than a pass/fail no credit hours “requirement” would help, even a little bit- a mere four hours of credit.

[mrydel]

Apparently a lot of schools do offer Medieval Botany. Maybe we should consider it.

Stallion. I truly believe you have been asking SantaStang for this for many years. I have sat back and appreciated the fact progress has been being made, but this year has really po'ed me. I was counting on several JC kids to offset the lack of local high rated recruits that we were out of the running for very early. The fact the Admin has apparently only partially solved the problem and another year is passing us by makes me feel almost as angry as you have sounded for several years.

[SMU Football Blog]

Apparently a lot of schools do offer Medieval Botany. Maybe we should consider it.

Your post made me google "Medieval Botany". I thought I was making it up. It never occured to me that it was a serious subject. Turns out it is. They have conferences on the subject and everything. I look forward to reading "The influence of medieval botany on the horticultural literature of the 16th to the 18th century."

[mrydel]

Apparently a lot of schools do offer Medieval Botany. Maybe we should consider it.

Your post made me google "Medieval Botany". I thought I was making it up. It never occured to me that it was a serious subject. Turns out it is. They have conferences on the subject and everything. I look forward to reading "The influence of medieval botany on the horticultural literature of the 16th to the 18th century."

I think there is a lecture on it at TCU after the holidays.

[EastStang]

Pretty funny stuff. I suspect that its more likely that they got credit hours in PE football 101- the art of holding on to the ball, PE football 202 - the theory of beating a zone defense, PE football 303- how to properly pick up a blitzing linebacker, PE football 104 - tackling techniques and procedures, psychology 115 -team building psychological strategies taught by the head football coach, English 109 - playbook writing techniques taught by the Offensive coordinator, History 122 - Hall of Fame football players and coaches, Music Appreciation 142 - Why the TCU fight song hurts your ears.

[mrydel]

Pretty funny stuff. I suspect that its more likely that they got credit hours in PE football 101- the art of holding on to the ball, PE football 202 - the theory of beating a zone defense, PE football 303- how to properly pick up a blitzing linebacker, PE football 104 - tackling techniques and procedures, psychology 115 -team building psychological strategies taught by the head football coach, English 109 - playbook writing techniques taught by the Offensive coordinator, History 122 - Hall of Fame football players and coaches, Music Appreciation 142 - Why the TCU fight song hurts your ears.

Graduate studies include: How to Avoid Warts When Frog Kissing 101, and

Sometimes Its Not a Prince, It's Just A Frog 101.

[Mexmustang]

What is the rule regarding transferable hours pertaining to being awarded an athletic scholarship?

Stands to reason the larger state schools have broader programs inwhich to find suitable comparable courses.

[ponyplayer]

What is the rule regarding transferable hours pertaining to being awarded an athletic scholarship?

Stands to reason the larger state schools have broader programs inwhich to find suitable comparable courses.

As long as they are in good academic standing and meet the progress toward degree requirements they can recieve a scholarship after the one year residence rule.

There were some Tulane athletes that wanted to transfer to SMU but could not because the school did not have their major.

[EP Pony Fan]

Any idea how many/which sport?
And how many (if any) Tulane athletes we DID accept?