What seed for SMU

[Grant Carter]

I think we would have come in at a 3 or 4 seed. 5 seed at worst. You have to remember that many pollsters left us off their list or just did not rank us where we deserved to be ranked due to the probation bias. Had we not been on probation and these voters voted as they should, I think we would have finished in the top 15 before the conference tourney.

Which posters left us off their list due to "probation bias"? We were ranked by every poster for a number of weeks. Why did they not have probation bias those weeks?

[JasonB]

If you look at who was pulled off the bubble, it is clear the selection committee used the BPI as an important factor. I think we would have been a 3/4 seed.

[skyscraper]

4 or 5.

[Blunt Pony]

I think we would have come in at a 3 or 4 seed. 5 seed at worst. You have to remember that many pollsters left us off their list or just did not rank us where we deserved to be ranked due to the probation bias. Had we not been on probation and these voters voted as they should, I think we would have finished in the top 15 before the conference tourney.

Which posters left us off their list due to "probation bias"? We were ranked by every poster for a number of weeks. Why did they not have probation bias those weeks?

The talk on Ponyfans was that many pollsters were not including us on lists or were not ranking us as high as they should have been based on our probation and not being eligible for postseason. I do not fact check Ponyfans, but maybe this was never an issue. I guess I have a hard time believing there were 24 teams in the country better than ours. I think had we not been on probation we would have been ranked higher by the voters. Like most hypotheticals, there is no right answer. Only opinions. Mine is that we would have been a 3 or 4 seed. That opinion is based on what I have seen of the other 3's and 4's in this field.

[RGV Pony]

Looking at the college bball landscape today, whatever and where we are is absolutely glorious. "Fire Alford" banners being flown over Westwood. Memphis. LSU. TCU. Stanford. Poor Tulane. Mid Majors with decent coaches worried about their guy getting poached. High majors wishing their coaches would be sent packing (see Illinois). And how awkward must it be that Cullen Neal at New Mexico has announced that he will transfer. He happens to be the head coach's son.

Once again, hash tag good old days, even when we are banned

[Grant Carter]

I think we would have come in at a 3 or 4 seed. 5 seed at worst. You have to remember that many pollsters left us off their list or just did not rank us where we deserved to be ranked due to the probation bias. Had we not been on probation and these voters voted as they should, I think we would have finished in the top 15 before the conference tourney.

Which posters left us off their list due to "probation bias"? We were ranked by every poster for a number of weeks. Why did they not have probation bias those weeks?

The talk on Ponyfans was that many pollsters were not including us on lists or were not ranking us as high as they should have been based on our probation and not being eligible for postseason. I do not fact check Ponyfans, but maybe this was never an issue. I guess I have a hard time believing there were 24 teams in the country better than ours. I think had we not been on probation we would have been ranked higher by the voters. Like most hypotheticals, there is no right answer. Only opinions. Mine is that we would have been a 3 or 4 seed. That opinion is based on what I have seen of the other 3's and 4's in this field.

I agree we would have been a 3-4 seed if we won the AAC tourney, I just disagree that there were people who would not vote for us because of a probation bias since literally every voter did vote for us at some point during the season.

[LA_Mustang]

Toohey was the only voter who publicly said he was not voting for a team on probation, and that was very early in the season. After a couple of weeks for whatever reason he changed that stance and had SMU in his top 25. As of last week he still had SMU ranked on his ballot.

[CalallenStang]

Toohey was the only voter who publicly said he was not voting for a team on probation, and that was very early in the season. After a couple of weeks for whatever reason he changed that stance and had SMU in his top 25. As of last week he still had SMU ranked on his ballot.

It was after a Ponyfans person emailed the AP who responded that they would have a discussion with Toohey

[JasonB]

Tulsa getting into the tourney over South Caroline strictly because of their win over SMU, and the seeding of UConn and Cincy shows you that the committee held the SMU team in very high regard.