footballdad wrote:Wonder if the Rice folks talk about SMU, the way the SMU folks talk about TCU?
I doubt it as I don't think they see us as a peer institution. They focus on Stanford, etc.
And you answer footballtrolls posts
Hilarious how you comment on my every post in the most childish ways.....and now you're complaining about others, as we have legitimate football conversations.
Another variable in application numbers is the application fee. Some schools don't charge them. Schools that do, charge different rates. That may affect the totals.
Some schools send out packages in March to kids that essentially say: 1) Apply to our school; 2) You will get in; and 3) We will give you an academic scholarship.
There are lots of ways to game the system related to applications (so that you can report a smaller acceptance percentage) - but the end of the day student quality data is hard to refute. SMU's average standardized test scores for admitted students is 150 points higher than TCU. Its not even close.
gostangs wrote:There are lots of ways to game the system related to applications (so that you can report a smaller acceptance percentage) - but the end of the day student quality data is hard to refute. SMU's average standardized test scores for admitted students is 150 points higher than TCU. Its not even close.
But as a biased (towards SMU) observer, TCU's dance team is so much better than ours and it is not even close.
gostangs wrote:Tulane announces incomplete applications as does TCU and Baylor. Also it should be noted application per available spot is pretty similar, and ours are complete applications.
All that said, I am sure great sports increases applications
Partially true. Partially false.
Baylor reports incomplete applications as "applications," TCU does not. In fact, TCU is the only private institution in the state of Texas who has an independent third-party (PwC) vet the books. TCU's Dean of Admission has publicly offered Baylor's Admission's office to do the same (and TCU Admission pay for it), but it repeatedly goes ignored. Ask any Admission office outside of Waco and they'll point the "cooking of books" to Baylor.
A major factor driving the increase is Tulane's decision to drop its $50 application fee in 2006. Many private schools charge $75 per application. Retif said the school eliminated the fee because plenty of people were already exempted from the fee, including Louisiana students, honor students, poor students and people in minority groups. Retif couldn't quantify the effect, but said it has definitely made a difference.
Schools report their own numbers and essentially are free to interpret the rules as they see fit.
One very important number that has been ignored, "cost". Old fashioned supply and demand determined by price. SMU's fees, tuition and fees are considerably higher than any other school in Texas, including the" out of state fee schedules" at A&M and Texas. I haven't looked up Tulane, but we have been 30% higher than TCU and Rice for some time.
Schools report their own numbers and essentially are free to interpret the rules as they see fit.
The instructions for the Common Data Set state:
Applicants should include only those students who fulfilled the requirements for consideration for admission (i.e., who completed actionable applications) and who have been notified of one of the following actions: admission, nonadmission, placement on waiting list, or application withdrawn (by applicant or institution).
