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AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby leopold » Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:06 pm

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/so- ... 12/2294217

Better head to head, better against P-5, and right now more likely to send a school to the CFP.

I heard someone suggest that Aresco should sue the Big XII for tampering. I'm curious to know if this could have any affect on expansion.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Pony Boss » Tue Sep 20, 2016 10:47 am

Nice. Aresco better ask for that pay raise.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Digetydog » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:18 am

leopold wrote:http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/so-far-aac-out-performing-big-12/2294217

Better head to head, better against P-5, and right now more likely to send a school to the CFP.

I heard someone suggest that Aresco should sue the Big XII for tampering. I'm curious to know if this could have any affect on expansion.


Most of those wins were against P5 bottom dwellers like UVA, Purdue, Syracuse, and Kansas.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby leopold » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:55 am

Most wins regardless of conference are against bottom dwellers - that's how they become bottom dwellers.

But one of those wins is our best against their traditional King Kong Daddy - UH over OU. The worst team in either conference right now is probably Kansas, a Big XII school, and ISU would probably struggle in our conference. Meanwhile Cincy, USF, ECU, and even possibly Temple could do just fine in that conference right now.

Let us somehow upset TCU and Memphis beat Ole Miss again - neither are outside the realm of possibility. I'm not a lawyer, but at some point in time you have to wonder how much success the AAC is allowed to have before they get raided, and someone brought up the point that that may be considered tampering. Maybe not, but it may allow the conference some time to continue to rise.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Digetydog » Tue Sep 20, 2016 12:35 pm

leopold wrote:Most wins regardless of conference are against bottom dwellers - that's how they become bottom dwellers.

But one of those wins is our best against their traditional King Kong Daddy - UH over OU. The worst team in either conference right now is probably Kansas, a Big XII school, and ISU would probably struggle in our conference. Meanwhile Cincy, USF, ECU, and even possibly Temple could do just fine in that conference right now.

Let us somehow upset TCU and Memphis beat Ole Miss again - neither are outside the realm of possibility. I'm not a lawyer, but at some point in time you have to wonder how much success the AAC is allowed to have before they get raided, and someone brought up the point that that may be considered tampering. Maybe not, but it may allow the conference some time to continue to rise.


The AAC is much closer to a P5 conference (especially at the top of the conference) than many people give them credit for and Kansas/ISU would fit right in at the bottom of the AAC FB standings.

But, I felt the authors analysis was fundamentally flawed. Wins over bottom feeders don't count for squat. UH's win over OU counted. ECU beat NC State, SMU Beat TCU :D Those wins count.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Pony ^ » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:05 pm

We really need to schedule Kansas
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby mustangxc » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:07 pm

...and Iowa State and Wake Forest.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby leopold » Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:53 pm

Pony ^ wrote:We really need to schedule Kansas


Yeah.

By making it a conference game.

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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby leopold » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:47 pm

Digetydog wrote:
leopold wrote:Most wins regardless of conference are against bottom dwellers - that's how they become bottom dwellers.

But one of those wins is our best against their traditional King Kong Daddy - UH over OU. The worst team in either conference right now is probably Kansas, a Big XII school, and ISU would probably struggle in our conference. Meanwhile Cincy, USF, ECU, and even possibly Temple could do just fine in that conference right now.

Let us somehow upset TCU and Memphis beat Ole Miss again - neither are outside the realm of possibility. I'm not a lawyer, but at some point in time you have to wonder how much success the AAC is allowed to have before they get raided, and someone brought up the point that that may be considered tampering. Maybe not, but it may allow the conference some time to continue to rise.


The AAC is much closer to a P5 conference (especially at the top of the conference) than many people give them credit for and Kansas/ISU would fit right in at the bottom of the AAC FB standings.

But, I felt the authors analysis was fundamentally flawed. Wins over bottom feeders don't count for squat. UH's win over OU counted. ECU beat NC State, SMU Beat TCU :D Those wins count.


The 'author'? Wow. I feel like people now. :)

Keep in mind the wins over bottom feeders apply to them, too.
Texas beat UTEP
Kansas beat Rhode Island
Baylor beat NW State, Rice, and SMU
Oklahoma beat ULM
KSU beat FSU
OSU beat Southeastern Louisiana (how many directional schools does Louisiana have?)
TCU beat SDSU (that's South Dakota, not San Diego)
TTU beat SFA and Louisiana Tech
West Virginia beat Youngstown State

I mean, seriously, they are almost ALL bottom feeder wins. The only marquee win for the Big 12 so far has been UT over Notre Dame. There are some okay wins over Mizzou and Pitt, but that's it. And that doesn't include, of course, the losses.

So the American is flat beating the Big 12 right now. I'm not saying it's as good a conference, but it has outperformed them so far. We beat TCU and the American will go to 3-1 against them.

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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby smitty329 » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:10 pm

As of right now, OU is THE bottom dweller in the Big XII
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby ericdickerson4life » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:17 pm

leopold wrote:Mizzou and Pitt, but that's it.


Not B12.


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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby ojaipony » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:22 pm

Yeah, if we beat TCU and Memphis beats Ole Miss, AAC PR should be all over that. If we can come along and UH/Cincy/Memphis/USF, etc all keep this up it might just go to a P6 and that's it. All about head to head IMHO. TCU got into the Big12 because they just flat out beat people. Do it on the field.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby sbsmith » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:45 pm

ojaipony wrote:Yeah, if we beat TCU and Memphis beats Ole Miss, AAC PR should be all over that. If we can come along and UH/Cincy/Memphis/USF, etc all keep this up it might just go to a P6 and that's it. All about head to head IMHO. TCU got into the Big12 because they just flat out beat people. Do it on the field.



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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Digetydog » Tue Sep 20, 2016 6:12 pm

leopold wrote:
Digetydog wrote:
leopold wrote:Most wins regardless of conference are against bottom dwellers - that's how they become bottom dwellers.

But one of those wins is our best against their traditional King Kong Daddy - UH over OU. The worst team in either conference right now is probably Kansas, a Big XII school, and ISU would probably struggle in our conference. Meanwhile Cincy, USF, ECU, and even possibly Temple could do just fine in that conference right now.

Let us somehow upset TCU and Memphis beat Ole Miss again - neither are outside the realm of possibility. I'm not a lawyer, but at some point in time you have to wonder how much success the AAC is allowed to have before they get raided, and someone brought up the point that that may be considered tampering. Maybe not, but it may allow the conference some time to continue to rise.


The AAC is much closer to a P5 conference (especially at the top of the conference) than many people give them credit for and Kansas/ISU would fit right in at the bottom of the AAC FB standings.

But, I felt the authors analysis was fundamentally flawed. Wins over bottom feeders don't count for squat. UH's win over OU counted. ECU beat NC State, SMU Beat TCU :D Those wins count.


The 'author'? Wow. I feel like people now. :)

Keep in mind the wins over bottom feeders apply to them, too.
Texas beat UTEP
Kansas beat Rhode Island
Baylor beat NW State, Rice, and SMU
Oklahoma beat ULM
KSU beat FSU
OSU beat Southeastern Louisiana (how many directional schools does Louisiana have?)
TCU beat SDSU (that's South Dakota, not San Diego)
TTU beat SFA and Louisiana Tech
West Virginia beat Youngstown State

I mean, seriously, they are almost ALL bottom feeder wins. The only marquee win for the Big 12 so far has been UT over Notre Dame. There are some okay wins over Mizzou and Pitt, but that's it. And that doesn't include, of course, the losses.

So the American is flat beating the Big 12 right now. I'm not saying it's as good a conference, but it has outperformed them so far. We beat TCU and the American will go to 3-1 against them.

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By author, I was pointing at the newspaper guy. I thought that his analysis was lazy.

Yours was much better.
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Re: AAC outperforming Big XII

Postby Dukie » Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:51 pm

ericdickerson4life wrote:
leopold wrote:Mizzou and Pitt, but that's it.


Not B12.


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The original poster meant wins over those teams (Okie State over Pitt, WVU over Mizzou).
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