Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

General discussion: anything you want to talk about!

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Post Reply
AfricanMustang
Varsity
Varsity
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:35 pm
Location: Washington DC

Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by AfricanMustang »

Fall 2016
Applied: 13,250
Admitted: 6,482 (48.92%)
Enrolled: 1,522 (23.56%)
Average SAT: 1,314
Average ACT: 29.3

Fall 2015
Applied: 12,992
Admitted: 6,360 (48.95%)
Enrolled: 1,374 (21.60)
Average SAT: 1,309
Average ACT: 29.4

Fall 2014
Applied: 11,817
Admitted: 6,192 (52.40%)
Enrolled: 1,459 (23.56%)
Average SAT: 1,308
Average ACT: 29.3
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
ΓÇò C.G. Jung
tristatecoog
PonyFans.com Legend
PonyFans.com Legend
Posts: 3010
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by tristatecoog »

2% higher yield made a big difference. Any idea what the target enrollment figure is? 1,500?
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
PonyFans.com Super Legend
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by gostangs »

question for those that know. Do these SAT average include all scores, and convert the ACT to the SAT, or are each of these numbers only that specific test? Seems like everyone is moving to ACT so wonder how much longer SAT will even be used for comparison purposes.

Progress on applications (these are finished applications - talking to you TCWHO), admitted (lower) and yield (higher). Overall student quality highest in Texas other than Rice.
deucetz
All-American
All-American
Posts: 628
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:08 pm

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by deucetz »

They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.
AfricanMustang
Varsity
Varsity
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:35 pm
Location: Washington DC

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by AfricanMustang »

gostangs wrote:question for those that know. Do these SAT average include all scores, and convert the ACT to the SAT, or are each of these numbers only that specific test? Seems like everyone is moving to ACT so wonder how much longer SAT will even be used for comparison purposes.

Progress on applications (these are finished applications - talking to you TCWHO), admitted (lower) and yield (higher). Overall student quality highest in Texas other than Rice.
Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
ΓÇò C.G. Jung
Pony^
All-American
All-American
Posts: 870
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:34 pm

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by Pony^ »

AfricanMustang wrote:Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers
More students are taking the ACT.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/bigger_ ... lege_test/

Some students reported scores from both the SAT and ACT. 685 entering freshmen reported SAT scores and 1,029 reported ACT scores, adding up to 1,714. The class size was 1,522.
Pony^
All-American
All-American
Posts: 870
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:34 pm

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by Pony^ »

Average SAT - 2016, 2015, 2014

SMU: 1314, 1309, 1308
Baylor: 1220, 1230, 1231
TCU: 1172,1178, 1181


Average ACT Composite - 2016, 2015, 2014

SMU: 29.3, 29.4, 29.3
Baylor: 28.1, 27.7, 27.6
TCU: 27.6, 27.4, 27.0
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
PonyFans.com Super Legend
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by gostangs »

Wow - about 150 SAT points between SMU and TCU. I think our football team is closer to theirs in quality than they are to us in academics.
AfricanMustang
Varsity
Varsity
Posts: 369
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:35 pm
Location: Washington DC

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by AfricanMustang »

Pony^ wrote:
AfricanMustang wrote:Numbers are for that specific test. Yes, either more students are taking the ACT than the SAT, or for some reason somehow we are admitting more ACT takers than SAT takers
More students are taking the ACT.
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/bigger_ ... lege_test/

Some students reported scores from both the SAT and ACT. 685 entering freshmen reported SAT scores and 1,029 reported ACT scores, adding up to 1,714. The class size was 1,522.
OK. Thank you!
“Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves.”
ΓÇò C.G. Jung
tristatecoog
PonyFans.com Legend
PonyFans.com Legend
Posts: 3010
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by tristatecoog »

deucetz wrote:They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.
A 24% yield isn't very good but other comparable schools have lower yields:

TCU - 23%
Rochester - 23%
BU - 21%
Pepperdine - 21%
Tulane - 20%
UCSD - 20%
Baylor - 19%
Miami - 17%
Case Western - 15%
Denver - 14%
Fordham - 12%

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-co ... -to-enroll
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
PonyFans.com Super Legend
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by gostangs »

baylor is not comparable. Ill never buy that. Never heard of anyone not getting in that school.
Pony81
Heisman
Heisman
Posts: 1353
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:09 pm

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by Pony81 »

Baylor and TCU are pretty much open admission if you have the money to pay the full freight.
Pony 81
tristatecoog
PonyFans.com Legend
PonyFans.com Legend
Posts: 3010
Joined: Sun Sep 24, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by tristatecoog »

gostangs wrote:baylor is not comparable. Ill never buy that. Never heard of anyone not getting in that school.
Denver and TCU aren't either. I should've said comparable and/or of local interest. Denver was included as a rich private school in an urban area. I don't know of any that are wealthy and haven't been admitted to TCU/Baylor but do know some that missed out on SMU.
deucetz
All-American
All-American
Posts: 628
Joined: Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:08 pm

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by deucetz »

tristatecoog wrote:
deucetz wrote:They don't include all. Only verbal and math. They aren't factoring in writing. SAT is on a 2400 scale now

6000 people accepted to get to 1500 smh. [deleted] poor recruiters.
A 24% yield isn't very good but other comparable schools have lower yields:

TCU - 23%
Rochester - 23%
BU - 21%
Pepperdine - 21%
Tulane - 20%
UCSD - 20%
Baylor - 19%
Miami - 17%
Case Western - 15%
Denver - 14%
Fordham - 12%

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-co ... -to-enroll
Many also have lower acceptance rates as well
gostangs
PonyFans.com Super Legend
PonyFans.com Super Legend
Posts: 12315
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 4:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas USA

Re: Fall 2016 SMU Class Profile

Post by gostangs »

Yield would be hard to accept if the results were poor students. We have the second highest student quality in the state. They obviously have lots of choices, and if you win one in four kids with 1320 SAT you are probably doing pretty well.

It would bug me if I was losing three out of four kids who average 1150 SAT 's like TCU.
Post Reply