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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:05 pm

Digetydog wrote:While Morris (like any coach) is up for criticism about his play calling (the fake punt was horrible), it amazes me how many people don't understand how devoid of talent the roster he inherited was.

In the past 2 years, he has raised the level of talent across the board and managed to plug most of the major holes in the process. Nevertheless, it is important to understand that he had a limited amount of scholarships to work with and a number of areas that were complete disaster areas. There was simply no way to "fix" everything in 2 recruiting classes.


anyone who has followed this program is aware that the last team JJ fielded came close (based on W/L record and average margin of defeat) to being the worst team in the history of SMU football. Let's see how things look in year 5 and hope this coaching staff is still together here as continuity is important in building a program
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Stallion » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:30 pm

SMU's third team talent will be better than June Jones' first string talent at many positions by 2017.

see QB, RB, WR, DLM, CB -not there at OLM yet because it takes a few more years to develop
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:07 pm

Stallion wrote:SMU's third team talent will be better than June Jones' first string talent at many positions by 2017.

see QB, RB, WR, DLM, CB -not there at OLM yet because it takes a few more years to develop


in defense of JJ, he did have some quality DBs that turned out good enough to play on Sundays but we can all agree his final roster was pretty void of talent
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby SoCal_Pony » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:13 pm

Charleston Pony wrote:anyone who has followed this program is aware that the last team JJ fielded came close (based on W/L record and average margin of defeat) to being the worst team in the history of SMU football.


CP, it was far worse than that. Late in the 2014 season we were on course to field one of the all-time worst teams in the history of College Football based on margin of defeat.

Heading into the CT game, we were 0-11, being defeated by an average score of 44-9.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:30 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:
Charleston Pony wrote:anyone who has followed this program is aware that the last team JJ fielded came close (based on W/L record and average margin of defeat) to being the worst team in the history of SMU football.


CP, it was far worse than that. Late in the 2014 season we were on course to field one of the all-time worst teams in the history of College Football based on margin of defeat.

Heading into the CT game, we were 0-11, being defeated by an average score of 44-9.



JJ left no doubt he had built a solid "Bottom 10" program
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby max the wonder dog » Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:52 am

If only Turner and the Circle of Champions had listened to PonyFans; JJ would have been gone after AZ :lol: :lol:
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby No Quarter » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:08 am

max the wonder dog wrote:If only Turner and the Circle of Champions had listened to PonyFans; JJ would have been gone after AZ :lol: :lol:


^^^

This.

And I have to go on to suggest that the BB sponsors showed more smarts in offering Coach Brown only one year certain, even as I wish he had taken it.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Comet » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:37 pm

max the wonder dog wrote:If only Turner and the Circle of Champions had listened to PonyFans; JJ would have been gone after AZ :lol: :lol:

It really is analogous to a relationship I feel like. If my wife were off talking to another guy the way JJ was with ASU I end it right then and there. I don't care about the baggage and sunk cost fallacies involved. Eff that noise, the strength of a program, like most things in life, come from healthy and trustworthy relationships. Taking back JJ at that moment shows just how low SMU valued itself.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby mustangxc » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:08 pm

There is no doubt the biggest mistake was not letting him go after the ASU debacle. Had we done that and hired the right successor we would have been on the heels of 3 bowl games and still had enough talent to compete for 2 more years before a precipitous drop in talent. That would have given us a 3 year head start on our current process. Given what was discovered I think we could have fired him then with cause.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby mrydel » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:33 pm

Comet wrote:
max the wonder dog wrote:If only Turner and the Circle of Champions had listened to PonyFans; JJ would have been gone after AZ :lol: :lol:

It really is analogous to a relationship I feel like. If my wife were off talking to another guy the way JJ was with ASU I end it right then and there. I don't care about the baggage and sunk cost fallacies involved. Eff that noise, the strength of a program, like most things in life, come from healthy and trustworthy relationships. Taking back JJ at that moment shows just how low SMU valued itself.

What if the prenup said you had to give her considerable assets but in another year the prenup would be a much lesser hit.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby Comet » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:55 pm

mrydel wrote:
Comet wrote:
max the wonder dog wrote:If only Turner and the Circle of Champions had listened to PonyFans; JJ would have been gone after AZ :lol: :lol:

It really is analogous to a relationship I feel like. If my wife were off talking to another guy the way JJ was with ASU I end it right then and there. I don't care about the baggage and sunk cost fallacies involved. Eff that noise, the strength of a program, like most things in life, come from healthy and trustworthy relationships. Taking back JJ at that moment shows just how low SMU valued itself.

What if the prenup said you had to give her considerable assets but in another year the prenup would be a much lesser hit.

Depends on how badly you want next year's model
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby mrydel » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:11 pm

I do not think the new model was available yet.
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

Postby ponyinNC » Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:22 pm

the innuendo is so strong in this thread...I love it
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Re: 3 recruiting classes

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Re: 3 recruiting classes

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