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Postby Stallion » Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:48 pm

Let me ask a question. How hard could it be to defend a team you knew did not have one skilled inside offensive big man. Generally, the idea is to get 5 guys on the court who can score. I bet this might be a clue as to our inability to score especially when we are not playing Savanah St.
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Postby Pony_Fan » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:05 pm

Stallion wrote:Let me ask a question. How hard could it be to defend a team you knew did not have one skilled inside offensive big man. Generally, the idea is to get 5 guys on the court who can score. I bet this might be a clue as to our inability to score especially when we are not playing Savanah St.


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Postby HixsontoLeVias » Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:23 pm

...stupid thread, sort of makes me actually long for the BOTM....not. Give Tubbs a break, enough with the constant premature ejaculation around here...relax. Long Live Chad Allen.
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Postby SWC2010 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:17 pm

The jury is still out on Tubbs, but travelling down I35...

I'd take Gillespie (A&M) over Drew (BU) AND Barnes (UT).

Barnes recruits like Mack, no doubt! But since TJ Ford, he hasn't found a true point guard. Gibson, Abrams, all of 'em played the point in HS-- but that was HS coaches putting the ball in the scorer's hands. In the last 5 minutes of a game Barnes reminds me of Henry Winkler in WaterBoy. They have no plays, no clues, talent only. During March Madness, Duke, UConn, MichSt, ILL(or others) will send the orange Micky D's home early.

Now, Drew is a good guy ( and was a good player), but he ain't taking BU to the promise land.

IMO... Gillespie is the sleeper in the Big XII (especially when he gets to coach against the 'Sons of the Pioneers' [Knight & Sutton] over the next few years. Maybe not this year (starting a walk-on, no less), but he will make A&M a winner.
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Postby friarwolf » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:32 am

Hoop Fan wrote:Its completely obvious that the defense is better under Tubbs than it was under Dement. I dont see how anyone could question that. Offense is about the same, stagnant. Limited scoring ability. Most of our guys dont pass well, so I guess the Princeton offense is out. Ball handling is limited. Shooting too. Have they invented a magic offense that can overcome those things yet?


It's called "teaching". If you can't get the studs to come here, you better teach the kids you get to be very strong on the fundamentals - like making good passes, hitting the open man, making your free throws, everyone boxing out, hustling to loose balls. And the word is very little of that is going on.............

For a reference point, watch Izzo's team play.

Time for a dream part II. Imagine a state of the art basketball facility where Mrs. Baird's is. A big red pony emblazoned on the facade overlooking Central Expressway................................
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Postby friarwolf » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:41 am

One more thing about facilities since we are spending the school's money. If money is to be raised to improve facilities, then why not spend the money to build a completely new facility? A new practice facility would be nice but do we really want to hook it onto an aging outdated facility? I would rather turn Moody into something else and build a first class facility elsewhere.
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Postby EastStang » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:24 am

The defense is improving. Look at the numbers Memphis has been putting up this year and we kept them below that number.
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Postby Billy Joe » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:34 am

Dement = no NCAA tournament appearances

Tubbs = no NCAA tournament appearances
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It really is a shame

Postby MFFL02 » Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:56 am

It is really a shame that Hopkins career was basically a waste...in fact you could argue that Hopkins going to SMU hurt the SMU program, because top notch recruits like Darrell Arthur surely will fear their careers will turn sour likes Hopkins did at SMU.
I miss Troy Matthews.
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Postby friarwolf » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:05 am

Hopkins needs to look in the mirror.......................
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Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:23 am

mustangnation wrote:
Hoop Fan wrote:Its completely obvious that the defense is better under Tubbs than it was under Dement. I dont see how anyone could question that. Offense is about the same, stagnant. Limited scoring ability. Most of our guys dont pass well, so I guess the Princeton offense is out. Ball handling is limited. Shooting too. Have they invented a magic offense that can overcome those things yet?


Actually there is an offense. Establish an inside/out game. This allows for more wide open shots from the perimeter. Although i do not believe that our talent is a bad as you say you are actually agreeing with me. Why would Tubbs continue to play a perimeter motion offense forcing our "bad shooting guards" to take long range contested shots. This is the bad X's and Os that i am talking about.
What makes it so obvious that the defense is better? I am still seeing the opponent get open look after open look. They MIGHT be holding opponents to a lower scoring average(I do not have any stats), but that is due to our offense taking the entire shot clock to shoot a contested three pointer.


Just 'establish' the inside/outside game huh? With who, Rack or the freshmen? I think they have tried to do that early in several games, but Rack isnt able, even though he is improved. Counting on freshman isnt going to get it done very often.
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Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:35 am

Gillespie's team just lost at home to Oklahoma in almost identical fashion to SMU. Whats so great about that? Drew's team just got blown out at home to Ok State. SMU gave them a much better game in Stillwater. I'm not here to bag on Gillespie or Drew, but I dont know how you can overlook the similar or worse losses these guys have had, but at the same time conveniently bash Tubbs. Does Drew get a pass because he has to play freshmen big guys like Diene and Rogers alot? Uh, that sounds like a very similar situation to Fall and Morris.
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Postby mustangnation » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:40 am

The big men that we have are more than sufficient against the teams that we are playing with the exception of maybe Memphis and Oklahoma. Morris, Pearson and Yes even Rack would be able to get an inside/out game going. Tubbs tries to run an offense through the post maybe five times a game and that is not enough cause any defense to breakdown.
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Postby mustangnation » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:42 am

No Drew and Gillespie get a pass because they are bringing in some big time recruits and not a guy who is averaging 6 pts a game and plays only ten minutes in high school. The direction of their programs are definitely moving up and i am not sure that the direction of ours is.
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Postby Stallion » Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:44 am

it is a little different at Baylor because they have had scholarship limitations which have prevented them from fielding a full team. Correct me if I am wrong but I think they have 10 on scholarship this year-8 the year before and only about 5 the year before that. Baylor is forced to go with big men because of those limitations.
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