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Postby couch 'em » Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:39 pm

I'm sick of you people with your "Scott is a nice guy and will be motivated!" Who cares? If Moses rose from the dead and wanted to lead SMU to the promised land, I still wouldn't want him to be AD! (unless he could arrange devine intervention, of course) My dog is also very nice, and loyal, and served under me for many years, but that doesn't mean my dog could do my job better than me.

We need a FRESH FACE who is PROVEN in the AD role. Not a Copeland lackey whom we hope will do a better job based on his personality and his ability to do his limited, non-AD job.
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Re: FORGET SECULES

Postby McClown27 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:07 pm

couch 'em wrote:I'm sick of you people with your "Scott is a nice guy and will be motivated!" Who cares? If Moses rose from the dead and wanted to lead SMU to the promised land, I still wouldn't want him to be AD! (unless he could arrange devine intervention, of course) My dog is also very nice, and loyal, and served under me for many years, but that doesn't mean my dog could do my job better than me.

We need a FRESH FACE who is PROVEN in the AD role. Not a Copeland lackey whom we hope will do a better job based on his personality and his ability to do his limited, non-AD job.


Only "proven" guy you are gonna get for the SMU A.D. is from crap schools like Toledo, Sam Houston, or Vanderbilt.
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Re: FORGET SECULES

Postby Pony_Fan » Sat Feb 04, 2006 6:42 pm

McClown27 wrote:
couch 'em wrote:I'm sick of you people with your "Scott is a nice guy and will be motivated!" Who cares? If Moses rose from the dead and wanted to lead SMU to the promised land, I still wouldn't want him to be AD! (unless he could arrange devine intervention, of course) My dog is also very nice, and loyal, and served under me for many years, but that doesn't mean my dog could do my job better than me.

We need a FRESH FACE who is PROVEN in the AD role. Not a Copeland lackey whom we hope will do a better job based on his personality and his ability to do his limited, non-AD job.


Only "proven" guy you are gonna get for the SMU A.D. is from crap schools like Toledo, Sam Houston, or Vanderbilt.


Toledo has a nice little bball program that beats ours handily and Vandy is not doing too poorly despite not having an AD in the SEC
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Postby BUS » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:04 pm

I do not agree with your title.

Scott would do a good job and is much more ready for TV and the media.

I also read the Carlton Cooper put his name in the hat. He is a really special guy. He also loves SMU.

If one of these two men get the AD position, I sure hope the other stays around. Both are valuable.

As far as Turner calling out the DMN. Cool. You get much better coverage of SMU in the Star Telegram.

I do not, nor do many get the DMN... The reason is bad P.C coverage.

Think about this.... How many time did you pick up a Sunday paper and fing 2, 3 or 5 of the same ads inside? They lie about the number of papers they sell.
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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:36 am

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Postby SoCal_Pony » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:12 am

I think we can all agree that the next AD needs to command the respect of our Board in order to implement meaningful changes to our Model.

The mere fact that some of you would entrust this critical task to a subordinate of a failed AD simply because he is a nice guy who bleeds SMU is beyond me.

Secules would be placed in a difficult if not impossible position. It is called guilt by association. I suspect the Board would simply feel they have him in their back pocket…much like Copeland.

There are times when the small thinking on this board by diehard SMU fans truly amazes me. This is one of those times
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Postby D1Football » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:25 am

Attetntion Board,
Pick an AD that will put SMU back on the Map. The future of SMU depends on the next hire. Let's be competitive. The city of Dallas is just as great as Los Angeles, Austin, Miami. Let's be on ESPN or FOX Sports every week. The rewards will follow. Trust me. Be aggressive. Go Mustangs!
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Secules? Are you kidding me?

Postby Flatlander » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:43 pm

I've lurked here for some time, but grew up in Dallas and attended a Big XII school, and have probably attended more SMU events than some people on this board. But still, what is the fascination with Secules? He has NO ties to the Dallas area, the school outside of Copeland (he's a UVA alum), and NO experience as a D-I AD. The simple fact of the matter is that SMU has seen the results of his work as a cog of Copeland's machine. Promoting him rewards the status quo, of which no one here seems to be a fan.

Quite honestly, why would you promote him? He's a talking head that's good with the media? Is that a serious response? He didn't get the AD jobs at Elon or Appalachian St--which would mean that those two Athletic Powerhouses require more than SMU? What type of message does this send to the alums, fans, students, media?

If anything, get someone with experience in a like situation: a small, private school with outstanding academics that competes in a major market with professional leagues, not just rival colleges (ex: N'western)
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Postby mr. pony » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:49 pm

What did Turner do in calling out the DMN? I missed it.
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Re: Secules? Are you kidding me?

Postby McClown27 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:54 pm

Flatlander wrote:If anything, get someone with experience in a like situation: a small, private school with outstanding academics that competes in a major market with professional leagues, not just rival colleges (ex: N'western)


Why would he leave Northwestern for SMU? You would have to pay 2-3 times his current salary. Secules is young, smart, and has excellent football connections in the south. Flatlander, why would we change regimes right when we are experiencing success?
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Postby abezontar » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:20 pm

um......we aren't successful yet....and it is just as likly that we will lose more than we win next year, just like after our 6-5 season in 1997; and if an almost .500 season is the marker for success, I am going to join jtstang in finding someone else to root for.
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Re: Secules? Are you kidding me?

Postby Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:52 pm

McClown27 wrote: Flatlander, why would we change regimes right when we are experiencing success?


You're kidding, right?
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Postby PlanoStang » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:54 pm

Hopefully, NOT as likely to be around .500 with our arranged possibly
weaker than us non-conference game schedule next year.

I'll be embarrased if we don't at least go 7-5 next year.

Might be an excuse for a Copeland like new AD to can a 15 wins in 5
seasons coach with an unlucky year.
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Postby Flatlander » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:23 pm

McClown:

Allow me to clarify my initial remark: get an associate AD or someone from a like situation that has shown success. Bringing someone in from a school like Texas doesn't bring in the same needed skill set or experiences. Agreed, to get the actual AD from Northwestern isn't likely or realistic.

Now, to address your Secules position: if he's got great football connections in the South, then that implies you are looking to replace Bennet, who also has great football connections in the south and who was hired under the Copeland/Secules Admin, meaning this would be the third coach that Secules would have input on hiring (and is that a good reflection of his football connections if he's been in on the hiring and firing of three coaches in less than 12 years?). DO NOT READ THIS AS ANTI-BENNET, because he's a good coach digging out of a deadfull situation and HE WANTS TO BE HERE, which is incredibly important.

But what are Secules' connections anyway? What is his experience outside of SMU? Why are you willing to settle for someone that Appalachian State PASSED ON ( and congrats to the Mounts for their D-II title this year)? What relevance does backing up Drew Bledsoe on the 1993 Pats have to do with running a D-I program? Why settle for the same old status quo? I'm not saying he's not smart, or young or good with the media (well, if he's so good with the media, then why does the media coverage suck?).
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Postby McClown27 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:37 pm

Flatlander wrote:Why settle for the same old status quo? I'm not saying he's not smart, or young or good with the media (well, if he's so good with the media, then why does the media coverage suck?).


You're right, we will find the perfect A.D. who will eliminate all of the problems that plague SMU athletics. It is best to bring in a D2 A.D. who won her conference then to reward a smart and intelligent assistant who cares about the team and is willing to make a commitment. :roll:

I personally think we have the right coaches, and Secules had a hand in selecting them. Therefore, it is best to keep someone with a good working relationship with Tubbs and Bennett, not some Big 12 hack who ran Chrissie Simms media campaign for the Heisman.
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