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Postby Pony_Fan » Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:30 pm

I don't think he'll be NBA but would have a nice overseas career.


It would only be fair to judge him playing around/with some decent talent.

Yes, due - his teammates have butterfingers and turnover problems galore.
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Postby McClown27 » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:23 pm

Pony4Life wrote:And who's Rick Rickert?


http://nbadraft.net/profiles/rickrickert.htm

Sorry, I am from Minnesota. He was a similar type recruit. He turned Duke, Arizona to go to Minnesota, and then was a mediocre player. The Timberwolfes drafted him in the 2nd round to placate local fan, and then sent him to Europe. He may have played a year with the big league team, but got into a physical fight with Garnett. Guess what, he got cut. Now, he makes like $100k in some foreign league because he sat on the bench on the NBDL.
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Postby angryfan04 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:09 am

Yep bhop has such great court vision that turns it over quite frequently with stupid plays - especially right after stealing the ball - effectively erasing his steal. And yeah the other guys could not handle his passes - tough to catch bounce passes in the lane that bounce off defenders - plus those passes around the ankles are tough to handle. I hope he waits a couple of weeks before worrying about the NBA - still has some games to play for SMU - would be nice see him get going in the conference tourney
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Postby MFFL02 » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:21 am

Agreed! Stop putting all of the blame for Bhop's lack of success on his teammates. He is responsible as well. There are plenty of players on mid-major teams that are having individual success although his team is not...
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Postby Corso » Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:27 am

It's not all on his teammates -- his health also has played a large factor. However, while the Hop fans (for the record: count me among them) might be deflecting the attention away from him when he has struggled, his skeptics also seem to belittle his accomplishments as the result of being a ball hog. Frankly, I think the truth lies somewhere in between.
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Postby PonyPride » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:40 pm

Hop is in pretty rare company: he's one of 14 players in NCAA history with 1,500 career points, 350 rebounds, 350 assists and 200 steals. The others:

Kirk Hinrich (Kansas), DeJuan Wheat (Louisville), LaBradford Smith (Louisville), Cookie Belcher (Nebraska), Hunter Greene (New Mexico), Hollis Price (Oklahoma), Tim McCalister (Oklahoma), Vonteego Cummings (Pittsburgh), Adrian Autry (Syracuse), Jason Hart (Syracuse), Billy Owens (Syracuse), Mardy Collins (Temple) and Mark Macon (Temple).

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On an unrelated note, I once tried to cover Billy Owens in high school. I would have had just as much luck defending LeBron James or Shaquille O'Neal.
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Postby MFFL02 » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:09 pm

Is that a joke? a lot of the guys on that list aren't good.
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Postby Pony Up » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:10 pm

Is your response a joke?

Hinrich, Wheat, Smith, Price, Cummings, Autry, Owens and Macon, at least, were very good college players. The others might be, too -- I just don't know much about them.
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