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Tubbs Rumor makes SportslineModerators: PonyPride, SmooPower
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No need to be a jerk about it. For the record, Jimmy doesn't know me from Adam, or if he does he barely knows me. My opinions are strong about the matter, but I am not biased like you are implying.
Tubbs as a recruiter: A
As a coach: C- 1. He needs to figure out how to maximize his talent. Has anyone else noticed that he (bamba) practically never sets screens? 2. Motivation. I know Derrick Roberts is better than what we have seen so far, but he takes mental vacations.
how do you give a Coach an A for recruiting when he has assembled no better than average talent. I'll give him an B+ for recruiting a much better group in the late 1990s like Sasser, Davis, Hancock, Ross but certainly not even an A back then because he has never been particularly successful recruiting inside players. Quit grading on the SMU curve. This Myth of the great SMU talent base that SMU coaches have to work with has got to stop.
i dont think Tubbs deserves an 'A' for recruiting either. At this point I would grade it as incomplete. Bamba, Morris and Dez are nice pickups. If he keeps doing that consistently over three or four consecutive years, SMU will be very good and you all will be excited about our team and our prospects. The problem right at this moment is that Dement failed to put together productive classes at the end of his reign and its killing us right now. Its not really very complicated why we cant score more points. It ain't the offense.
But the fact of the matter is our offense we run is not best suited for the talent (or lack there of) that we have. I was personally so relieved to see us get out and run some at the UAB game. Also liked the penetration and dishes. Then second half we forgot how we played in the first.
His first recruiting class of Dez, Bamba and Morris is average but I would imagine it was still top half of CUSA so I have to give him a B- or so. His current recruiting class looks like an F as it stands with only 1 player, a 6'6 super project, in it.
Well if you want to take a shot at Dement's recruiting-which might have some validity-then its only fair to point out that Epps, Williams, Nyam, and Ofoegbu are extremely marginal recruits at this level. I prefer not to make a hasty judgment about the two Juniors at least until we see how they do in the Summer AAU League but the early consensus by Texas Hoops and the other recruiting services do not have them listed as gems either-perhaps some of Tubbs' problems are related to those misses as well. I agree though that right now there are probably more marginal Division 1A rosters on this roster than at any time in recent memory. However, Dement did not leave a complete rebuilding job either with Castro, Simpson, Isham, and Hopkins. A lot of coaches including Dement and Bliss in SMU's recent past started at ground zero.
Great post Stallion. Only thing I have to disagree with is your assesment of Nyam. He is going to turn the program around for us and do more than enough to fill the void left by BHop at the end of the season.
its punitive when you don't caveat the Ofugebu signing. There wasnt much left to choose from by the time Tubbs got hired that spring. Ike was a fill in recruit. Epps appears to be miss. Williams had offers, I dont know how you write him off without ever hitting the court as an injured freshman. Jury is still out. You didnt like and probaby still dont like Bamba either, so Nyam with a similar background might be better than you think. I understand the ppg he is putting up is not impressive, but he does play good competition like Bamba did.
As for Castro, Simpson and Isham, what do they have to do with this year? They put together an average year last year as senior, certainly played hard, but what would you have expected tubbs to pull off with that group? I never said Tubbs inherited a totally devoid team, what I said was the upperclasses for THIS year are woefully thin. That goes back to Dement. And this aint the Dave Bliss era now is it?
I clearly said numerous times that I had no problem with SMU taking a chance on Bamba Falls and that in fact it was a gamble worth taking for SMU-my point which I still think is valid was that it would not solve the glaring lack of inside scoring and rebounding for the 2005-06 team. (This reminds me of the "Coaching Doesn't Matter" quotes attributed to me which I also NEVER said). My point was that most Division 1A teams with decent backcourt players would attempt to fill the frontcourt void by going hard after JUCO Transfers(with the Epps scholarship)-something that is problematical at SMU. Bamba is doing the best he can but when you add up the minimal 3 rebounds per game by a 7-1 kid, the 2 buckets per game, the inside scoring by opponents, and the disappearance of Bamba in several games SMU in fact has struggled inside in scoring, defense (other than shot blocking) and rebounding.
Bringing up last year's team addresses Tubbs ability as a x's and o's coach, if he was able to take a non-thin group of seniors and do.....nothing with them, then he is really no better, and perhaps worse, than Dement was. Let's not forget that Tubbs was here for all but two years of Dement's tenure, so much of what he learned about coaching the college game he probably picked up from Dement, I really don't know why we expect a huge change in the program.
The donkey's name is Kiki.
On a side note, anybody need a patent attorney? Good, Bad...I'm the one with the gun.
oh, is that the group of seniors who had a big time losing record as juniors? What do you attribute that to Mr. Logic? You dont get that much magical improvement between your junior and senior years usually, maybe between sophomore and senior years you could suggest Tubbs had something to work with. By the way, the dismal junior season that Castro, Simp and I-man had wasnt all just a result of Dement's coaching techniques and I NEVER said it was. The team had too many weaknesses period. Just like this one.
That group of Juniors had some good talent. They knocked off Texas Tech (might have been ranked, dont remember), Purdue (17th in country), and hung close with Wake (a top 10 team). While I liked Dement I don't think it was solely his AMAZING coaching that allowed us to play that way. I think it had alot to do with the talent Tubbs inherrited the next season. Dement wore out his welcome with that group and they quit on him down the stretch- plain and simple.
its all "plain and simple" with you. That Purdue team hadnt played anybody when we beat them and proceeded to prove that they were not even a top 100 team that season. Look it up, they were not a legit team. You also realize that we had lost at home to UT Chattanooga or somebody a few days before that december win at Purdue. Texas Tech was not a great team that year when we beat them at home either. That performance was no more impressive than the Oklahoma game this year.
Do you live in the real world or do you just go around firing everybody when things dont immediately go your way?
I would challenge you to find one post where I said I think Tubbs should be fired. Do I think he ever should have been hired in the first place? Thats a different story.
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