Meanwhile in Hogland

[78pony]

Arkansas doomed itself when it left the SWC because it's Texas recruiting profile suffered more than they thought. Unlike LSU, it can't rely mostly on in-state recruits. Chad's only hope is to create a solid pipeline from Texas but ne needs to win really soon to make the place halfway attractive. I don't see it happening in the SEC West. Let's hope JJ doesn't decide to steal Sonny to replace Chad.

Didn’t stop Nutt from winning the SEC West twice or Petrino from winning 10 and 11 games back to back.

It’s really unbelievable that Morris lost to a MWC team that was 1-11 last year. I mean he even beat better teams than that at SMU. Takes a pretty big combination of suck between the coaching staff and players both. Going to be hard to justify keeping him after another 2-10 season if it comes to that but also looks bad firing a coach that soon so I’m not sure what the solution is.

Agree on the suck part. And wow, talk about no win. If you ever want anything other than a mediocre high school coach (which you now have) in the future, you can't fire him yet.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

Chad Morris Pre-Texas A&M Press Conference 9-23-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhh9rP7N0SI

[78pony]

Chad Morris Pre-Texas A&M Press Conference 9-23-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhh9rP7N0SI

He just doesn't do humble well.

[leopold]

This just in

Chad Morris seen getting on a plane to Houston.

[Topper]

Word is when the contract expires, this year or next, it will go back to home and away. However, do expect Arkansas to play a Dallas game every year. I wish we would get on this before Houston does. Houston already got them in BB.

Would be awesome to play Arkansas although I doubt they’d schedule us while Chad is there (which may only be for a few more months). I’d offer a home and home with the Dallas game at the Cotton Bowl during the State Fair and give them 1/2 the gate.

Arkansas will not play anywhere but Jerryworld if they come to town at all. They need an annual game in Dallas but Jerryworld wants to see P5 matchups that get the most national attention.

[Topper]

Arkansas doomed itself when it left the SWC because it's Texas recruiting profile suffered more than they thought. Unlike LSU, it can't rely mostly on in-state recruits. Chad's only hope is to create a solid pipeline from Texas but ne needs to win really soon to make the place halfway attractive. I don't see it happening in the SEC West. Let's hope JJ doesn't decide to steal Sonny to replace Chad.

Didn’t stop Nutt from winning the SEC West twice or Petrino from winning 10 and 11 games back to back.

It’s really unbelievable that Morris lost to a MWC team that was 1-11 last year. I mean he even beat better teams than that at SMU. Takes a pretty big combination of suck between the coaching staff and players both. Going to be hard to justify keeping him after another 2-10 season if it comes to that but also looks bad firing a coach that soon so I’m not sure what the solution is.

If my math is correct, Arkansas has not one a single SEC title (admittedly a difficult task) in 28 seasons. In fact, the Hogs have finished at .500 or below 14 times during that period. They have been owned by the big dogs in the conference. I'm not anti-Hog, but you need Texas kids because Arkansas just doesn't have the numbers. When I was growing up they were a perennial national power.

[mrydel]

How many titles have the other teams that gohogs posted won during that same time. The SEC has been ruled in recent years by Alabama, LSU, and Florida. All the rest are fighting from behind. Arkansas has at least managed some SEC west titles (in arguably the most difficult conference division in the nation), and a basketball national championship. They may not be any better (most likely worse) than SMU is today but Arkansas has fared as well in the SEC as anyone else other than the top 3.

[horsemanx]

How many titles have the other teams that gohogs posted won during that same time. The SEC has been ruled in recent years by Alabama, LSU, and Florida. All the rest are fighting from behind. Arkansas has at least managed some SEC west titles (in arguably the most difficult conference division in the nation), and a basketball national championship. They may not be any better (most likely worse) than SMU is today but Arkansas has fared as well in the SEC as anyone else other than the top 3.

In my opinion the basketball championship had nothing to do with their conference. They would have won that one in any conference. It was purely because of Nolan Richardson.

[mrydel]

So I guess Alabama’s national championship’s don’t count because of Saban since he did it elsewhere. And Florida and Ohio State don’t count because of Urban Meyer. I do not understand your rationale.

[horsemanx]

So I guess Alabama’s national championship’s don’t count because of Saban since he did it elsewhere. And Florida and Ohio State don’t count because of Urban Meyer. I do not understand your rationale.

I know Arkansas fans are sensitive but that's not what I said at all!

I just said winning that national championship wasn't necessarily proving an ability to compete in the SEC because Richardson had such a great team they could have won no matter which conference they represented.

[mrydel]

So I guess Alabama’s national championship’s don’t count because of Saban since he did it elsewhere. And Florida and Ohio State don’t count because of Urban Meyer. I do not understand your rationale.

I know Arkansas fans are sensitive but that's not what I said at all!

I just said winning that national championship wasn't necessarily proving an ability to compete in the SEC because Richardson had such a great team they could have won no matter which conference they represented.

Aren’t most national championship teams pretty good. I am sorry but I am old and I guess just cannot understand your logic. They were in the SEC, they competed in the SEC, and they won the national championship.

[Topper]

How many titles have the other teams that gohogs posted won during that same time. The SEC has been ruled in recent years by Alabama, LSU, and Florida. All the rest are fighting from behind. Arkansas has at least managed some SEC west titles (in arguably the most difficult conference division in the nation), and a basketball national championship. They may not be any better (most likely worse) than SMU is today but Arkansas has fared as well in the SEC as anyone else other than the top 3.

I think Georgia, Auburn and Tennessee have all won 2 or 3 SEC titles during that time. BTW I have nothing against Arkansas,(other than my distaste for CM) but they need Texas players to do better than breaking even half the time and compete with the elite in the SEC. Arkansas used to be one of the best teams in the country every year. Now they are not even one of the better teams in their own division. They have quite a few Texans on the roster, but they aren't getting the type that should be starting in the SEC.

[horsemanx]

Aren’t most national championship teams pretty good. I am sorry but I am old and I guess just cannot understand your logic. They were in the SEC, they competed in the SEC, and they won the national championship.

You convinced me! I am currently online shopping for an #Arkansas2SEC shirt. #WPS

[gohogs14]

How many titles have the other teams that gohogs posted won during that same time. The SEC has been ruled in recent years by Alabama, LSU, and Florida. All the rest are fighting from behind. Arkansas has at least managed some SEC west titles (in arguably the most difficult conference division in the nation), and a basketball national championship. They may not be any better (most likely worse) than SMU is today but Arkansas has fared as well in the SEC as anyone else other than the top 3.

I think Georgia, Auburn and Tennessee have all won 2 or 3 SEC titles during that time. BTW I have nothing against Arkansas,(other than my distaste for CM) but they need Texas players to do better than breaking even half the time and compete with the elite in the SEC. Arkansas used to be one of the best teams in the country every year. Now they are not even one of the better teams in their own division. They have quite a few Texans on the roster, but they aren't getting the type that should be starting in the SEC.

It would also help if Arkansas would produce more impactful football players, but they are all playing basketball now. The state has never produced a whole lot in terms of quantity but the top 3-5 in a given year have usually been big difference makers like McFadden, Matt Jones, Mallett (born in Arkansas, played in Texas), Petrino’s group of WRs, some Mackey and Rimington award winners. There have been some decent ones lately but no stars. Meanwhile we have 4* basketball players all over now especially in Little Rock.

[SoCal_Pony]

How many titles have the other teams that gohogs posted won during that same time. The SEC has been ruled in recent years by Alabama, LSU, and Florida. All the rest are fighting from behind. Arkansas has at least managed some SEC west titles (in arguably the most difficult conference division in the nation), and a basketball national championship. They may not be any better (most likely worse) than SMU is today but Arkansas has fared as well in the SEC as anyone else other than the top 3.

I think Georgia, Auburn and Tennessee have all won 2 or 3 SEC titles during that time. BTW I have nothing against Arkansas,(other than my distaste for CM) but they need Texas players to do better than breaking even half the time and compete with the elite in the SEC. Arkansas used to be one of the best teams in the country every year. Now they are not even one of the better teams in their own division. They have quite a few Texans on the roster, but they aren't getting the type that should be starting in the SEC.

I agree with Topper. Georgia, Auburn & Tennessee have won a combined 8 SEC Championships since Arky joined, with Auburn & Tennessee also winning NCs. Razorbacks have won 0 (they are 0-3 in the SEC Championship games).

So I see it as Alabama & Florida, followed by LSU, Georgia, Auburn & Tennessee, followed Arkansas & Mizzou, followed by everyone else.

Can’t say I blame them for bolting, but ~30 years with 0 SEC Championships vs 75 years in the SWC with 14 Championships.

One other interesting fact - in the 30 years preceding their SEC bolt, Arkansas played in 6 Cotton Bowls (when this game was MUCH more significant), 5 Sugar Bowls & 2 Orange Bowls. Over the past 30 years in the SEC they have played in 4 Cotton Bowls (diminished reputation), 1 Sugar Bowl and 0 Orange Bowls.