SMU rarely gets it...

by **jtstang** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:43 pm

mrydel wrote:
jtstang wrote:
abezontar wrote:Then SMU will fire that coach without releasing the whole story to the public, and we will get to watch Hoop Fan and jtstang work themselves toward another rage induced heart attack....

Probably not, because I don't give a damn about SMU sports anymore. I'll just stick with the Boulevard for my entertainment from now on...

Well, that and aggravating the sunshiners on this board. That's too much fun to give up.

Please be aware that when you see me sitting in a chair on the blvd. it more than likely belongs to Arkpony or BUS who has been kind enough to allow me to rest for a while. Please do not sit in those seats. I would feel responsible and whereas I do not mind when you sneak into mine inside the stadium, I do not feel I can speak nor can I be responsible for the actions of others onto whom you may trespass.

I will not be relegated to the corners of the Boulevard!!!

by **mrydel** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:46 pm

I guess my point is that I am a seat stealer on the blvd so we now become competitors rather than commrades!! Come back inside the stadium and once again my seats will be there for you.

by **DickerJames** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:57 pm

McClown27 wrote:
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If Williams had been a jerk, he would have gone straight to Dale Hansen. That way--by pulling a David Stanley--we would be in for a hell of a lot more than what is gonna happen now.

I'm sorry, but that is a ridiculous statement. David Stanley had big story to tell. Gramps had a story about burgers.

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:01 pm

ASpelling wrote:
Clown -
Have a bunch of alums not really care for anything but winning. Pay the players, the moms, the HS coaches, anyone of influence on these kids. Let's go back to the 80's...at least we won!

We should stop trying to be a poster child for the NCAAs. Nobody cares!

Really good suggestions. :roll:

No wonder Tubbs turned to cheating, none of you seem to care.

1) We change the model to allow transfers and to compete with other schools in recruiting.
2) We do some marketing and P.R. to improve attendance.

That way, we don't have to cheat. :shock:

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:13 pm

EastStang wrote:Let's take a different look, you're a coach who is being asked to come in and coach SMU. You look at the team you're inheriting. You see what your predecessor inherited and saw the short time he was given. You see the restrictions placed upon recruiting at SMU. You see that you are not getting any recruits this year to improve last year's team. And you see that there are alums who either want results yesterday, or who want their grandson to play a lot of the time regardless of his abilities versus other players. You see that the Dallas ISD coaches have their panties in a wad about your predecessor getting fired. You heard your predecessor was fired for NCAA violations, but all you've heard are de minimus violations in the press. Would you want to know what your predecessor did to get fired? If so, would you take the job if they wouldn't tell you? And if it turns out that he was fired for the guano variety of violations, then do you take the job?

Dude, people with better resumes than Tubbs are already linked to the job. SMU is in a good b-ball conference with an urban recruiting base.

Other coaches know that Tubbs was in over his head.

by **Hoop Fan** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:17 pm

urban recruiting base? Are you sniffing glue again? We just crapped all over our urban recruiting base for a long time. Even if guys think Tubbs wasnt all that, they are gonna steer players away just because we outted him after two measley years for what amounts to nothing so far.

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:22 pm

Hoop Fan wrote:urban recruiting base? Are you sniffing glue again? We just crapped all over our urban recruiting base for a long time. Even if guys think Tubbs wasnt all that, they are gonna steer players away just because we outted him after two measley years for what amounts to nothing so far.

It is a good job. Much better than you think.

I feel that it is good enough that we can hire coaches that have experienced success--unlike Tubbs.

by **LA_Mustang** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:29 pm

If you truly believe that you're high. Of the division I-A football/basketball schools, SMU is probably in the bottom 5% as far as a desirable place to coach. It is a career ender....and I can give several examples.

by **Vitale** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:35 pm

Whether that's true or not, I have a hunch we'll hire someone -- I don't know who -- that will exceed the expectations many of us have, as far as coaching pedigree/resume.

by **EastStang** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:43 pm

Dude, we don't even have a committee yet! How can great names be linked to the job except by wishful conjecture of some fans? Until I see who is interviewing for the job and who is thereafter saying they're not interested in the job will we have any inkling what's going on. At this point, I'm expecting a 95 year old former coach who can't remember to zip down. Hopefully Turner, Copeland and Orsini were not stupid enough to can a coach with little justification without a viable super candidate waiting in the wings. But history has shown that Turner and Copeland are capable of some pretty stupid things over the years. Most coaches will look at this firing and say, they canned him after two years FOR THAT, and the two best players on the team are now talking about transferring. Even a great coach will be 1-32 next year if that happens. I can hear the screaming now. BTW did anyone notice that George Mason landed a JUCO player who grew up in Houston? It will be slim pickings by the time we get a coach.

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:52 pm

LA_Mustang wrote:If you truly believe that you're high. Of the division I-A football/basketball schools, SMU is probably in the bottom 5% as far as a desirable place to coach. It is a career ender....and I can give several examples.

Bottom 5%? So you think Monroe and Lafeyette are better jobs than SMU? What about Arkansas State? San Jose State? Have you ever been to Temple or St. John's? They make Highland Park look like...well, Highland Park.

We also have tradition and a fertile recruiting base.

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:55 pm

EastStang wrote:Dude, we don't even have a committee yet! How can great names be linked to the job except by wishful conjecture of some fans?

Will it be like the great A.D. search committee that met once to rubber stamp Turner's decision? Turner said it is gonna happen fast, and I would guess we will have a coach by next Monday.

by **jtstang** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:58 pm

McClown27 wrote:We also have tradition and a fertile recruiting base.

It's good to see you coming around, but I don't think the firing of one coach over burgers and Cheer constitutes a "tradition" per se.

by **SMU Football Blog** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:08 pm

jtstang wrote:
McClown27 wrote:We also have tradition and a fertile recruiting base.

It's good to see you coming around, but I don't think the firing of one coach over burgers and Cheer constitutes a "tradition" per se.

We'll have to do it two or three times before we really get the hang of it.

by **McClown27** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:38 pm

jtstang wrote:
McClown27 wrote:We also have tradition and a fertile recruiting base.

It's good to see you coming around, but I don't think the firing of one coach over burgers and Cheer constitutes a "tradition" per se.

Not a bad tradition if we start firing unproductive and cheating coaches. I guess that does not conform to the mediocrity and new facilities approach that you espouse.

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