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by Bergermeister » Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:27 am
Pony_Fan wrote:Nothing changes with you guys. The DMN coverage again?? Get over it.
My sentiments, exactly, regarding former SMU Coach Jimmy Tubbs.
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by PonyPride » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:18 am
jtstang wrote: .... WHY DO YOU THINK THE MORNING NEWS OWES SMU ANYTHING? What has SMU athletics ever done for it?....
Therein lies the problem -- SMU does not have to "do anything" to get coverage. SMU is the only Div. I-A school in Dallas, and the paper claims to be the DALLAS Morning News. I understand that its job is to sell papers, so it makes sense that they also cover UT, A&M, etc., but SMU should be covered prominently. As the top story? Sometimes, but certainly not always. However, since the DMN has its name draped all over everything -- Ford Stadium, Moody Coliseum, etc. -- and is touted as a "sponsor," then it DOES make sense that it would cover the school. You know Belo isn't sponsoring the athletic by pouring money into it -- it's got to be on a trade basis, and I can't believe the DMN is living up to its end of the trade.
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by McClown27 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:30 am
I agree PonyPride. There is also an economic side to my argument. Having a well-attended athletic program in Dallas would be economically beneficial to the city. The same benefits would come to the Mockingbird area that already go the area off downtown. Of course, whether the folks in UP/HP would want a succesful program is another question entirely. Some folks in that area do not even want modern roads constructed in their bubble.
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by Kappas Are Yummy » Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:50 am
McClown27 wrote:I agree PonyPride. There is also an economic side to my argument. Having a well-attended athletic program in Dallas would be economically beneficial to the city. The same benefits would come to the Mockingbird area that already go the area off downtown. Of course, whether the folks in UP/HP would want a succesful program is another question entirely. Some folks in that area do not even want modern roads constructed in their bubble.
TYPICAL PARKIE RESPONSE: Oh no! We don't want to widen Mockingbird because we're better than the rest of Dallas and want to keep everyone out.
Besides, won't someone consider the children! If we have more lanes, they might have to look both ways before crossing the street, like the poor kids do.

Just my two cents.
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by Jim Rome » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:22 pm
How many groups can you take potshots at in a single post?
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by jtstang » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:28 pm
PonyPride wrote:jtstang wrote: .... WHY DO YOU THINK THE MORNING NEWS OWES SMU ANYTHING? What has SMU athletics ever done for it?....
Therein lies the problem -- SMU does not have to "do anything" to get coverage. SMU is the only Div. I-A school in Dallas, and the paper claims to be the DALLAS Morning News. I understand that its job is to sell papers, so it makes sense that they also cover UT, A&M, etc., but SMU should be covered prominently. As the top story? Sometimes, but certainly not always. However, since the DMN has its name draped all over everything -- Ford Stadium, Moody Coliseum, etc. -- and is touted as a "sponsor," then it DOES make sense that it would cover the school. You know Belo isn't sponsoring the athletic by pouring money into it -- it's got to be on a trade basis, and I can't believe the DMN is living up to its end of the trade.
And they DO cover SMU, probably more than warranted by the record. For godsake, they have a beat writer assigned to SMU. I do not think SMU has done anything since the DP (other than perhaps firing a coach for burgers and Cheer) which has warranted front page coverage. Please tell me what they did, and I hope you can do better than the UAB miracle. And I'm sure DMN paid SMU for those advertising rights and I seriously doubt there was any particular level of coverage promised as part of the deal. The idea that SMU's fortunes are tied to appearances in the newspaper is ludicrous.
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by mrydel » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:33 pm
jtstang wrote:PonyPride wrote:jtstang wrote: .... WHY DO YOU THINK THE MORNING NEWS OWES SMU ANYTHING? What has SMU athletics ever done for it?....
Therein lies the problem -- SMU does not have to "do anything" to get coverage. SMU is the only Div. I-A school in Dallas, and the paper claims to be the DALLAS Morning News. I understand that its job is to sell papers, so it makes sense that they also cover UT, A&M, etc., but SMU should be covered prominently. As the top story? Sometimes, but certainly not always. However, since the DMN has its name draped all over everything -- Ford Stadium, Moody Coliseum, etc. -- and is touted as a "sponsor," then it DOES make sense that it would cover the school. You know Belo isn't sponsoring the athletic by pouring money into it -- it's got to be on a trade basis, and I can't believe the DMN is living up to its end of the trade.
And they DO cover SMU, probably more than warranted by the record. For godsake, they have a beat writer assigned to SMU. I do not think SMU has done anything since the DP (other than perhaps firing a coach for burgers and Cheer) which has warranted front page coverage. Please tell me what they did, and I hope you can do better than the UAB miracle. And I'm sure DMN paid SMU for those advertising rights and I seriously doubt there was any particular level of coverage promised as part of the deal. The idea that SMU's fortunes are tied to appearances in the newspaper is ludicrous.
I would have put the dropping of the Track program on the front page.
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by jtstang » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:49 pm
Good call, mrydel, these folks should really think about what they are asking. What front page coverage of SMU in this day and age could possibly attract attention from recruits and potential fans?? In the last twenty years we have exactly one winning season in football including being 0-12 three years ago, and we just fired our basketball coach for burgers and Cheer!!
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by McClown27 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:53 pm
jtstang wrote:And they DO cover SMU, probably more than warranted by the record. For godsake, they have a beat writer assigned to SMU.
Oh, so we get too much coverage!! Nice one!!
I don't mean to be rude, but I do wonder how you can be that much of a fan when you argue that we get too much media coverage. Should we get one story a month or is that still too much?
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by jtstang » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:56 pm
McClown27 wrote:Oh, so we get too much coverage!! Nice one!! I don't mean to be rude, but I do wonder how you can be that much of a fan when you argue that we get too much media coverage. Should we get one story a month or is that still too much?
Let me ask you this. We've gotten a lot of coverage for the basketball program in the DMN in the last couple of weeks. Are you happy with it?
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by McClown27 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:07 pm
jtstang wrote:McClown27 wrote:Oh, so we get too much coverage!! Nice one!! I don't mean to be rude, but I do wonder how you can be that much of a fan when you argue that we get too much media coverage. Should we get one story a month or is that still too much?
Let me ask you this. We've gotten a lot of coverage for the basketball program in the DMN in the last couple of weeks. Are you happy with it?
They have noted that several coaches have interviewed. All the coaches interviewed have better resumes than Tubbs, so I think it is quite positive. I don't think it is negative that Evans, Doherty, Gillen and Terry are interested in our job. It does shoot your theory about the next coach dead though.
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by jtstang » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:18 pm
McClown27 wrote:They have noted that several coaches have interviewed. All the coaches interviewed have better resumes than Tubbs, so I think it is quite positive. I don't think it is negative that Evans, Doherty, Gillen and Terry are interested in our job. It does shoot your theory about the next coach dead though.
Not sure what theory of mine you are referring to. In any event, how about the coverage regarding the manner in which Tubbs was fired, the admissions of Max Williams being a booster once again involved in violations as he was in the '80s, and the burgers and Cheer firing mentality. And how about that honest Blackistone column, that do anything for you? I mean that was the prominent front-page column you've been looking for.
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by McClown27 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:21 pm
jtstang wrote:McClown27 wrote:They have noted that several coaches have interviewed. All the coaches interviewed have better resumes than Tubbs, so I think it is quite positive. I don't think it is negative that Evans, Doherty, Gillen and Terry are interested in our job. It does shoot your theory about the next coach dead though.
Not sure what theory of mine you are referring to. In any event, how about the coverage regarding the manner in which Tubbs was fired, the admissions of Max Williams being a booster once again involved in violations as he was in the '80s, and the burgers and Cheer firing mentality. And how about that honest Blackistone column, that do anything for you? I mean that was the prominent front-page column you've been looking for.
You have made several posts about the caliber of the next coach. You have suggested that because we fired Tubbs for cheating, no one will want this job. I think you used the phrase "bottom 5% of jobs." Seeing that it is quite obvious that candidates are not shunning the job, your theory does not seem to be valid. As for Blackistone, no one takes his assertion that "Cheaters Deserve Extensions" very seriously.
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by jtstang » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:27 pm
McClown27 wrote:You have made several posts about the caliber of the next coach. You have suggested that because we fired Tubbs for cheating, no one will want this job. Seeing that it is quite obvious that candidates are not shunning the job, your theory does not seem to be valid. As for Blackistone, no one takes his assertion that "Cheaters Deserve Extensions" very seriously.
I see. Well Evans and Terry are the only guys worth a second look, and I doubt either of them will come to work for the hack job that is the SMU athletic department. And if they do, we'll be lucky. Keep your fingers crossed. And the Blackistone column was recent and prominent front page stuff, and you said that's what you wanted, so what are you complaining about again?
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by McClown27 » Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:31 pm
jtstang wrote: And the Blackistone column was recent and prominent front page stuff, and you said that's what you wanted, so what are you complaining about again?
I haven't been critical of the amount of coverage lately. I didn't like Blackistone's column, but I posted on what I would have changed. I am critical of their pre-game coverage of our football and basketball teams. I also think they cover UT recruiting too much.
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